The God Journey
By Wayne Jacobsen and Brad Cummings
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Podcast Description
An ever expanding conversation of those thinking outside the box of organized religion.
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In Russia With Love | From St. Petersburg Russia, Wayne talks with his hosts, Michael and Susan Simpson as they share a bit of their journey that engaged a former K-State women's basketball player to the people of Russia. They describe the current climate in Russia and what God has done to change their mission from trying to engage people with a discipleship program, to living among them to help them live loved and what it has cost them when they no longer fit into the program. In the course of that journey, they married seven years ago, both for the first time and live at the Father's pleasure part time in Russia and part time in the States. You'll find their desire to help others on this journey charming and infectious. Podcast Links: Find out more about Michael and Susan's life coaching at Trove Inc. Their seasonal chocolate business with a message of the lost finding redemption: The Chocolate Bordello Great Joy in Kenya | 5/11/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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A God-Filled Nobody, Part 2 | Wayne continues his conversation with John Beaumont from last week. John Beaumont is the author of A God-Filled Nobody, and numerous other books about our freedom to live in the revelation of Jesus and has traveled throughout the world encouraging others on this journey as well. Now retired he lives in Rotorura, New Zealand. In this second of a two-part interview, John talks about the things that matter most as he looks back on his journey. He shares about the constant pain he lives in, healing, and how he processes that tension in his own relationship with God. Finally they discuss John's conviction that "Fellowship ends when meetings begin." Podcast Links: Links to John Beaumont's resources on the web. Great Joy in Kenya | 5/4/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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A God-Filled Nobody | During Wayne's recent trip to New Zealand, he spent a day with John Beaumont, author of A God-Filled Nobody, and numerous other books about our freedom to live in the revelation of Jesus. John is one of those pioneers whose passion for God helped unmask the conventions of religion that do more to restrict our growth in him, rather than free us to know him. He has traveled the world sharing some of his insights with others. In this first of a two-part interview, John shares a bit of his own story and how God has shaped his life over seven decades, and continues to invite him into the freshness of a daily walk with him. Podcast Links: Links to John Beaumont's resources on the web. John Beaumont's, Passing the Torch (PDF file) Great Joy in Kenya | 4/27/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Repentance That Works | Following up on a conversation Wayne and Kent Burgess had over the weekend about repentance, and how their view of it has shifted greatly from their old days of religion, they reconnected to record some of that for others. They used to see it as wallowing in guilt and shame and making well-intentioned, though impossible, promises to God about never repeating it again. After the cross has removed our shame, however, repentance is the lively conversation with God about the broken places in our thoughts and motivations that invite a work of healing and invites us more deeply into his process transformation. Loving the way God does it is so subversive, and where we give up our need to control the people we love, we can see how subversive it is in inviting others into transformation without needing to manipulate them at all. Podcast Links: Kent's Blog Faithfully Dangerous Great Joy in KenyaОткъде да купя икона | 4/20/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Sharing Another’s Journey | The previous podcast began to explore what it means to share someone else's journey, even if its not the journey you'd prefer them to be on. Wayne asked his wife Sara to join him for a further look at the things God has taught them in their own marriage and to answer some of the questions that others asked about finding a way to share their spouse's, and even their children's journeys. Relationships thrive where we embrace the other person in their journey and trust God to work out what he needs to in them, rather than getting someone else to do what would make us happy, or at least mitigate our fears. Of course none of this can happen as long as we see our relationships as a contest of power and not a relationship of affection. Podcast Links: Previous Podcast on learning to share our spouse's journey Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources available in Australia at livingloved.com.au | 4/13/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Simplicity of a Loving Life | Brad is back in the podcast studio as he and Wayne sort through the last few weeks of not seeing each other and catch up a bit on Wayne's trip to New Zealand. Sorting through the mail bag and blog posts they read one of the best blog posts ever, and then find themselves talking about living in fullness by loving and cherishing what God puts before us each day. Find out what VPD is and how not to not only avoid it, but also avoid passing it on to others. They end up in discussing the freedom of love between spouses, and the pressure many feel to get their spouse on their journey, and how backwards that way of thinking really is. There are still so many holdovers of history among people of faith that truly relegate women to second-class status. A TIME Magazine article reminds us how culture was designed to lord over women as a way of limiting their freedoms and choices in the world. Thank God for freedom! Podcast Links: Time Magazine article on Women, Money and Power. Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources available in Australia at livingloved.com.au | 4/6/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Life of a Pilgrim, Part 2 | Part 2 of Wayne's conversation with Jack Gray, a Scottsman who has resided in New Zealand for almost 50 years. They continue their discussion from last week on the life of the church and Jack's journey to find the church Jesus is building, rather than the one man is building. They talk about a Swiss theologian from the mid 1900s who pointed out that when the love and power of the Spirit faded in the early church, we replaced him with dogma, doctrine, and institutionalism. They talk about Jack's rich experiences with church life as a relational reality and how people cannot resist the desire to put things into a box, rather than continue to embrace the unfolding work of the Spirit. Podcast Links: The Misunderstanding of the Church by Emil Brunner Jack Gray's website: The Pilgrim Path Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources available in Australia at livingloved.com.au | 3/30/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Life of A Pilgrim | Meet Jack Gray, a native of Scotland, surgeon in the Congo in the 1950s, doctor and hospital administrator in New Zealand, and a life-long, passionate follower of Jesus. Wayne met up with Jack during his recent visit to New Zealand, where Jack and his family have lived since 1965, and encouraged him to reflect over his nearly ninety years and the things Jesus has taught him along the way. As he tells his story he talks about his bout with depression, betrayal by brothers in Christ, the loss of his dear wife of 59 years, and how Jesus led him beyond the boundaries of religious institutions to walk freely in him. He talks about the day Jesus spoke to him, "If you want church my way, you have to stop doing it your way," and how it changed the trajectory of his life and met the deepest passion of his heart. Podcast Links: Jack Gray's website: The Pilgrim Path Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources available in Australia at livingloved.com.au | 3/23/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The God Journey #353 | Just because something is wonderful and God-filled does that mean we should expect it to be permanent? This is our 353rd podcast and the completion of our seventh year sharing our conversations with the world. As Wayne and Brad take a look back and celebrate the incredible journey they have had together over those years, they also see that season coming to an end. They talk about the fact that God seems to be leading them down different paths and that has challenged them to put their friendship above compelling the other to go where the other isn't called to go. Brad is now taking on Windblown Media as his journey unfolds and Wayne will be taking The God Journey into some different conversations that are on his heart. While Brad will still be a frequent voice in these conversations, their schedules and differing passions will preclude that from being an every-week event. Not all collaborations are meant to be as permanent as we might hope, and letting go of them as God leads, opens up fresh possibilities for God's working. Podcast Links: Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources in Australia at livingloved.com.au | 3/16/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Myth of Managed Spirituality | Crawling through recent emails, Wayne and Brad share and comment from other people's journeys and how they are being transformed in God's life. That brings up such recent podcast topics as how we view and treat women, spiritual authority, and our attempts to change others through preaching principles are destined to fail. For centuries our religious structures have endeavored to change people by giving them a set of principles to follow and motivating them to do it. When will we learn that "managed spirituality" is an oxymoron of the highest order that can never deliver what it promises? Podcast Links: Great Joy in Kenya Wayne's resources in Australia at livingloved.com.au Художник | 3/9/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Love of a Father | Wayne's just back from the Fort Worth area of Texas and in sharing some of that with Brad they end up talking about finding our security and freedom in the affection of a loving Father. Unfortunately religion teaches us to live out of our heads by finding and following a set of principles or doctrines that define a Father's love for us, but often without actually linking us to that Father. Connecting with God's love doesn't come by getting my doctrines all lined up, but in learning to live out of our hearts as he reveals himself in us. Learning to live loved is not just a message or a fad to follow but a reality God wants to teach us how to relax into. Podcast Links: Demi Moore's comments in Harper's Bazzar. Great Joy in Kenya | 3/2/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Don’t Should On Me | There are two different conversations in this podcast. The first is about not shoulding on ourselves or others, spawned by a t-shirt that were given to Brad and Wayne. That doesn't mean there aren't wonderful ways to live that God has revealed, but that conformity through obligation is a very different process than God uses to transform us into his image. The second responds to some blog comments about the twisting of certain Scriptures to validate viewing women as second-class citizens and to justify husbands manipulating them for their own convenience or even abusing them. Jesus regarded women as full participants in his kingdom and overturned society's norms to do so. How can we do any less? Podcast Links: Great Joy in Kenya Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or Lifestream Order In Season: Embracing the Father's Process of Fruitfulness from Lifestream | 2/24/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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In the Midst of Pain | Do we have to go through suffering to be shaped by God? Prompted by a question on a blog comment, Brad and Wayne talk about the tension between finding God's presence in the midst of our troubles and difficulties, and thinking God brings suffering in our lives to teach us something. While God does not orchestrate our sufferings to help us grow, he does promise to be in them when they come to teach us how to live beyond the realities of this age by living deeply in his love. Rather than live in fear of future sufferings to come, we can simply live in his love every day, whether that is in easy times or painful ones. Suffering on the outside does not have to destroy us on the inside. Podcast Links: Great Joy in Kenya | 2/17/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Passive Follower or Active Participant? | Brad and Wayne couldn't find a slot to record a podcast this week, but Wayne had some visitors in town over the weekend who are long time friends and frequent listeners to The God Journey. Watching their lives grow in joy and freedom over the last decade, Wayne gleans lessons from the journeys of Kevin Tupper, Kent Burgess and Mike Rea (pictured left to right). Each talk about finding their way into a real and effective growing relationship with a Loving Father by moving from being passive followers of religion to active participants in their engagements with God. You'll learn about switching your default position from God is against you, to the reality that God is for you and find out what a quiet time really is. Podcast Links: Joy from our orphanage in Kenya Previous Podcasts with Kent: The Painful Process of Transformation and In the Land of Kenya The movie Instinct | 2/10/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Your Sense of Belonging | It's Super Bowl week in the States and a little romp about football turns into a wider discussion about God's intervention in sport and recreation and why people get so connected to athletic teams that they go through days of depression if their favorite one loses. Could it be a result of God wiring us for himself and our seeking it in all the wrong places? Is that why people identify with athletic teams, celebrities, and even religious gatherings that offer a false sense of belonging by connecting it to something human? A false sense of belonging will always separate us from others, but if we find our belonging in God we may still enjoy sports and other groupings of people, but they won't own us in the same way and they won't give us an excuse to look down on others who like things other than we do. Finding our worth in God's love for us will open doors to a richer kind of community and freedom to live in the world. Podcast Links: Wayne's Blog on Tattoos on the Heart Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or LifestreamИкони на светци | 2/3/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Seeing People as People | Brad's been listen to the relationships versus religion raps on YouTube and Wayne's been reading Tattoos of the Heart and the two converge in a lively discussion about how we view people. Do we treat others as individuals and love as people even if broken or lost, or do we see them through the grid of us versus them relationships that makes us more prone to poke them in the eye with our own need for self-validation. As long as we need people to fill up something in us, we use them even if we don't mean to. By finding our acceptance and worth in him, we will not view people based on our needs, but rather engage them as loved children of a gracious Father, whether they know it yet or not. That invites us into the space Jesus enjoyed, the freedom to love people for who they were, not how they would fit into his plans. Podcast Links: The Religion/Relationship Rap Wayne's Blog on Tattoos on the Heart The Human Experience Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or Lifestreamхудожник на икони | 1/27/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Relationships First | Charlie shares a wonderful story about how this podcast has opened some doors at his work. Then Brad and Wayne interact with other emails about creating community that offers a safe environment by putting relationships first, as a family does. Too many times a genuine move of God gets curtailed by those who seek to "steward" it, but only end up in a misguided attempt to control it. In the end what might have begun as God's gift ends up possessing them just like the ring of power in the Lord of the Rings. Though well-intentioned they change the dynamics from sharing real friendships to trying accomplish a task and then relationships are destroyed. This fits Marshall McLuhan observation that "We shape our tools, and then our tools shape us." Unless we put relationship first and free each other to be their own life in God we'll never discover the real joy of God's kind of community. Podcast Links: Marshall McLuhan Quote Contributions are still needed to help establish an orphanage in Kenya. Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or Lifestream Order In Season: Embracing the Father's Process of Fruitfulness from Lifestream | 1/20/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Living Truly | Wayne and Brad revisit the Spiral of Silence Podcast through comments and emails received about it. This time the focus is on our response to this phenomenon that makes us care more about what others think of us than we do living truly. How do we help create a safe place for ourselves and others to be their authentic selves? Only God's love can bring us freedom from this false sense of belonging and when God teaches us how to live this way, we will want to extend the same freedom to others. They finish with a quote from George McDonald about how it it is more important for us to live obediently to the living Jesus rather than theorize about him. How awesome our fellowship with others would be if each of us learned to live this way and free others to do so as well. Podcast Links: George MacDonald Quote Contributions are still needed to help establish an orphanage in Kenya. Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or Lifestream Order In Season: Embracing the Father's Process of Fruitfulness from Lifestream | 1/13/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Spiral of Silence | Wayne and Brad explore the cultural phenomenon researchers are calling the "spiral of silence" that demonstrates the truth behind the Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale, "The Emperor's new Clothes". Simply put, people who want to avoid reprisal or isolation actually go along with the popular opinion around them even when it differs from their own. Instead of objecting, they spiral into silence so that a whole group of people can actually embrace what others want of them rather than risk the negative social judgment of their peers. The research is fascinating and helps explain why religious systems or communities can be caught up in a culture of conformity where everyone seems to agree, rather than making people feel safe especially where they might have questions and disagree. Podcast Links: Chuck Colson's Breakpoint on The Spiral of Silence Wikipedia on The Spiral of Silence | 1/6/12 | Free | View In iTunes |
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The Messyness of Truth | For the last podcast of the year Brad and Wayne spend some time in the old mailbag to let their listeners add their input. The conversation eventually settles on how truth does set us free, but not before it messes with us and our illusions. The process of opening our eyes to God's reality often involves the unraveling of lies that we've used to navigate through life. As they implode we can be overwhelmed with anger or frustration. But of those signal the very end of a process that allows the light and love of God to win our hearts into his reality. It is a marvelous, if sometimes painful process, but if we can appreciate it we can relax easier when it happens to us, and cheer others on when its happening to them. Podcast Links: Contributions are still needed to help establish an orphanage in Kenya. Order A Man Like No Other from one of these three websites: Murry's website, Windblown Media, or Lifestream Order In Season: Embracing the Father's Process of Fruitfulness from Lifestreamikoni | 12/30/11 | Free | View In iTunes |
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Customer Reviews
Two great guys talking about real Christianity
The God Journey is a great podcast! The practical and real conversation about relational Christianity will induce a hunger for the living relationship with our Father outside of the lure of religious practice. If you are someone seeking God but have given up on the "Sunday Morning Clubs", here are two guys who don't have a formula or a program for you to follow. However, they have a love and a desire to follow Jesus right to the Father's heart.
If you're interested in Jesus and the Church, don't miss this one
I've been listening to Wayne and Brad from the first issue of The God Journey. This podcast has done more than any other to open my eyes to a world of people learning about Jesus, relating to each other, and sharing their struggles and joys in that journey. There's a nice balance of humor, serious discussion, getting to know the hosts, and hearing interviews and stories from all over the world. This podcast really captures a lot of information about what God is doing in the world, without being preachy or dry. This is a podcast you don't want to miss... there's nothing else like it.
Meaningful Life on Life Discussion
Two opposite natured men brought together by The Lord for such a time as this that they would converse about real life issues in a conversational manner that reaches right to the heart of the matter without being offensive toward people while standing firm about real, daily, personal relationship between Jesus and man within an "outside the box" format. As the podcast rolls on, the warm tone opens up, the life changing material is bantered about as God blends tow heart voices into one beautiful expression of His current heart for a bonding relationship with mankind, and the listener is left knowing God just broke through the natural barriers in our minds in a subtle and lasting way, through the invisible power of His Holy Spirit.
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