Going Viral - The Podcast Mark Honigsbaum / Zinc Media

As the UK’s independent public inquiry into Covid-19 gets underway, members of the Covid bereaved complain that they are not being given an opportunity to testify.
Today, in the second part of our two-part special, Mark speaks to the parents of Susan Sullivan, a woman with Down's Syndrome who died of Covid-19 at Barnet General Hospital on March 28, 2020, after being deemed “not for resuscitation” and he reveals the findings of a confidential investigation by the Royal Free NHS Hospital Trust into her death. The report, which makes for shocking reading, found that Susan was not seen by a consultant until 20 hours after admission to Barnet’s Accident and Emergency department and that the fact that she had Down’s Syndrome and had been fitted with a pacemaker should not have excluded her from intensive care.
Mark also speaks to Kamran Mallick, the CEO of Disability Rights UK, about what the Sullivan case reveals about the pattern of discrimination experienced by people with learning disabilities across the NHS, and to Dominic Wilkinson, a medical ethicist, who explains the challenge to doctors of weighing the harms and benefits of invasive procedures to patients.
Presented by Mark Honigsbaum @honigsbaum
With:
John and Ida Sullivan
 www.covidfamiliesforjustice.org / @CovidJusticeuk 
Kamran Mallick, CEO of Disability Rights UK.
www.disabilityrights.uk  / @KamranMallick
Professor Dominic Wilkinson
@NeonatalEthics
Professor of Medical Ethics and Director of Medical Ethics at the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics. Dominic is also a Consultant Neonatologist at the John Radcliffe Hospital and a Senior Research Fellow at Jesus College. 
www.jesus.ox.ac.uk/about-jesus-college/our-community/people/professor-dominic-wilkinson/ 
Series Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @Melissafitzg
Cover art by Patrick Blower  www.blowercartoons.com
Follow us on Twitter: @GoingViral_pod    
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Blog: markhonigsbaum.substack.com 
This episode of Going Viral has been produced with the support of a grant from the Higher Education Innovation Fund at City, University of London. It is part of the project, “Commemorating Covid, Remembering Pandemics”, www.rememberingpandemics.com
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As the UK’s independent public inquiry into Covid-19 gets underway, members of the Covid bereaved complain that they are not being given an opportunity to testify.
Today, Mark speaks to the parents of Susan Sullivan, a woman with Down's Syndrome who died of Covid-19 at Barnet General Hospital on March 28, 2020, after being deemed “not for resuscitation” and being denied access to intensive care. The Sullivans have long suspected that their daughter was the victim of medical bias and may have survived if the hospital had granted her statutory right to have a family member at her bedside. Determined to be Susan’s voice, John and Ida Sullivan launched their own investigation into Susan’s death and uncovered a catalogue of medical errors in the process. We also hear from Baroness Heather Hallet, the chair of the UK public inquiry, and from Fran Hall and other members of Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice UK.
Presented by Mark Honigsbaum @honigsbaum
With:
Fran Hall @FranFD1
John and Ida Sullivan
 www.covidfamiliesforjustice.org / @CovidJusticeuk 
Series Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @Melissafitzg
Cover art by Patrick Blower  www.blowercartoons.com
Follow us on Twitter: @GoingViral_pod    
Follow us on Instagram: goingviral_thepodcast 
Blog: markhonigsbaum.substack.com 
This episode of Going Viral has been produced with the support of a grant from the Higher Education Innovation Fund at City, University of London. It is part of the project, “Commemorating Covid, Remembering Pandemics”,
www.rememberingpandemics.com
If you enjoy our podcast - please leave us a rating or review.  Thank you!

As the UK’s independent public inquiry into Covid-19 gets underway, members of the Covid bereaved complain that they are not being given an opportunity to testify.
In a new two part special, Mark speaks to the parents of Susan Sullivan, a Down’s Syndrome woman who died of Covid-19 at Barnet General Hospital on March 28, 2020, after being deemed “not for resuscitation” and being denied access to intensive care. The Sullivans have long suspected that their daughter was the victim of medical bias and may have survived if the hospital had granted her statutory right to have a family member at her bedside. Determined to be Susan’s voice, John and Ida Sullivan launched their own investigation into Susan’s death and uncovered a catalogue of medical errors in the process.
Mark investigates....
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As sure as night follows day, we will face another pandemic, so how can we learn from the mistakes made during Covid-19, to ensure our response next time is not only more effective, but also more ethical?
Today Mark and his guests Ilina Singh, James Wilson and John Prideaux dissect the British Government’s approach during the Covid-19 pandemic and explore the failure to engage seriously with the ethical challenges the pandemic raised, comparing the British approach with those in the USA and China. And they debate how ethicists and ethical thinking could play a more central role in deciding how to respond to the next pandemic. With Catherine Joynson of the Nuffield Council on Bioethics. Produced in collaboration with the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator.
Presented by Mark Honigsbaum @honigsbaum
With:
Catherine Joynson
Associate Director, Nuffield Council on Bioethics
www.nuffieldbioethics.org | @CathJoynson | @Nuffbioethics
John Prideaux
The political correspondent at the Economist.
www.mediadirectory.economist.com/people/john-prideaux/  |   https://www.economist.com/  | @JohnPrideaux | @TheEconomist
Ilina Singh
Professor of Neuroscience & Society at the University of Oxford and co-director at the Wellcome Trust Centre for Ethics and the Humanities. Principal Investigator on The UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator, a collaborative project that brought UK ethics research expertise to bear on the multiple, ongoing ethical challenges present by Covid-19.
https://www.psych.ox.ac.uk/team/ilina-singh  | @OxPsychiatry
James Wilson
Professor of Philosophy and Co-Director of the Health Humanities Centre at UCL and co-investigator on the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator.
www.ucl.ac.uk/philosophy/people/permanent-academic-staff/james-wilson  |  @jamesgswilson | @ucl
Series Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @Melissafitzg
Co-producer: Kate Jopling @katejopling
Cover art by Patrick Blower  www.blowercartoons.com
Follow us on Twitter: @GoingViral_pod    
Follow us on Instagram: goingviral_thepodcast 
Blog: markhonigsbaum.substack.com 
This episode of Going Viral on trust in the pandemic, has been produced in collaboration with the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator. The Ethics Accelerator was funded by the UKRI Covid-19 research and innovation fund. 
https://ukpandemicethics.org/   |   @PandemicEthics_
Transcript available here:
Going-Viral-What-Would-an-Ethical-Pandemic-Look-Like-Transcript.pdf 
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From the outset of the Covid-19 pandemic, the British Government made it clear that a baseline level of mortality from Covid was being “priced in” to its decision making: on March 12th 2020, Boris Johnson stopped short of ordering the sort of lockdowns seen in other countries and warned that, “many more families are going to lose loved ones before their time.” This approach belied a series of value judgements and trade-offs where people’s lives were set against other values, such as personal liberty and the economy. Today Mark and his guests Anjana Ahuja, Martin McKee and Dominic Wilkinson, reappraise this approach. With Ceinwen Giles and Matt Fowler. Produced in collaboration with the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator.
Presented by Mark Honigsbaum @honigsbaum
With:
Anjana Ahuja 
Contributing writer on science for the Financial Times and co-author of the bestselling ‘Spike: The Virus Vs The People’ - the inside story of the Covid-19 pandemic with Sir Jeremy Farrar.
https://www.ft.com/anjana-ahuja  /  @anjahuja
Ceinwen Giles
Co-CEO of Shine Cancer Support, member of the General Advisory Council of The King's Fund and Chair of the Patient and Public Voices Forum for the NHS England Cancer Programme.
www.shinecancersupport.org / @ceineken
Professor Martin McKee
Professor of European Public Health at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine. Martin is Research Director of the European Observatory on Health Systems and Policies and he’s published many scientific papers and books on health and health policy, with a particular focus on countries undergoing political and social transition.
www.lshtm.ac.uk/aboutus/people/mckee.martin / @martinmckee
Matt Fowler
Co-Founder of Covid-19 Bereaved Families for Justice.
www.jrct.org.uk/covid-19-bereaved-families  / @CovidJusticeUK
Professor Dominic Wilkinson
Professor of Medical Ethics and Director of Medical Ethics at the Oxford Uehiro Centre for Practical Ethics. Dominic is also a Consultant Neonatologist at the John Radcliffe Hospital and a Senior Research Fellow at Jesus College. He is one the editors of a forthcoming book with Oxford University Press on pandemic ethics.
www.jesus.ox.ac.uk/about-jesus-college/our-community/people/professor-dominic-wilkinson/ / @NeonatalEthics
Series Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @Melissafitzg
Co-producer: Kate Jopling  @katejopling
Cover art by Patrick Blower. www.blowercartoons.com
Follow us on Twitter: @GoingViral_pod    
Follow us on Instagram: goingviral_thepodcast 
Blog: markhonigsbaum.substack.com 
This episode of Going Viral on trust in the pandemic, has been produced in collaboration with the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator. The Ethics Accelerator was funded by the UKRI Covid-19 research and innovation fund. 
https://ukpandemicethics.org/   /  @PandemicEthics_
Transcript available here:
Going-Viral-How-Many-Deaths-Are-Too-Many-Transcript.pdf
 
 

Professor Sir Michael Marmot has been researching health inequalities and their relationship to social injustice for more than 50 years. He has long been a vocal critic of how health inequalities undermine social cohesion and the ability of health systems to respond effectively to pandemics and other health emergencies. Despite being an outspoken critic of austerity and the policies of successive Coalition and Conservative British governments, he was named a Companion of Honour in the 2023 New Year Honour’s List.
Today Prof Sir Michael Marmot speaks to Mark about Covid-19 and health inequalities as well as his decades-long research into this field.  This interview is featured in our companion episode: ‘All In It Together: Were Unequal Outcomes Inevitable during Covid-19?’
Presented by Mark Honigsbaum @honigsbaum
With:
Professor Sir Michael Marmot
Professor of Epidemiology at University College London, Director of the UCL Institute of Health Equity, and Past President of the World Medical Association.
https://www.instituteofhealthequity.org/  @MichaelMarmot
@marmotihe
Series Producer: Melissa FitzGerald @Melissafitzg
Co-producer: Kate Jopling  @katejopling
Cover art by Patrick Blower. www.blowercartoons.com
Follow us on Twitter: @GoingViral_pod    
Follow us on Instagram: goingviral_thepodcast 
Blog: markhonigsbaum.substack.com 
This episode of Going Viral on trust in the pandemic, has been produced in collaboration with the UK Pandemic Ethics Accelerator. A partnership between the Universities of Oxford, Bristol and Edinburgh, University College London, and the Nuffield Council on Bioethics (the Principal Investigator was Professor Ilina Singh, University of Oxford). The Ethics Accelerator was funded by the UKRI Covid-19 research and innovation fund. 
https://ukpandemicethics.org/   /  @PandemicEthics_
Transcript available here:
Going-Viral-Bonus-Interview-with-Professor-Sir-Michael-Marmot-Transcript.pdf
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