By Merseyside Skeptics Society
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Be Reasonable is a podcast from the Merseyside Skeptics Society, with Hayley Stevens and Michael Marshall. Each monthly interview will examine beliefs from outside of the mainstream, exploring how those views are constructed and what evidence people feel supports their case. We believe in approaching subjects with respect and an open mind, engaging with people of differing viewpoints in an environment where debate is polite and good-natured, yet robust and intellectually rigorous.
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #047 – Don Donderi||Joining Marsh this episode is author, psychologist and UFO researcher, Don Donderi.||10/26/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #046 – Sam Osmanagic||Joining Marsh this time is author, sociologist and businessman Sam Osmanagic. Sam has made headlines around the world with his claims to have discovered ancient pyramids in Bosnia.||9/28/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #045 – Kerry Cassidy||Joining Marsh this episode is documentary maker and investigative journalist at Project Camelot, Kerry Cassidy.||8/31/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #044 – Kevin Randle||Joining Marsh this episode is author, military veteran and UFO researcher, Kevin Randle.||7/20/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #043 – Psychic Claimant||This month, Marsh speaks to someone who contacted the Merseyside Skeptics because they believe they have psychic powers, and wanted to discuss how to be tested and verified.||6/22/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #042 – Sean Clarke||Joining Marsh this episode is Sean Clarke from the Spiritual Science Research Foundation in India.||5/26/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #041 – Alyson Dunlop||Joining Marsh this episode is paranormal investigator and UFO researcher Alyson Dunlop from SPI Scotland.||4/27/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #040 – Christopher Bollyn||Joining Marsh this time is Christopher Bollyn, a 9/11 truther and author of 'Solving 9-11'.||3/16/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #39 – Lee Piercy||In this episode, Marsh is joined by paranormal investigator Lee Piercy, to discuss ghost investigations and Lee's theory on the physics behind ghostly apparitions. You can find Lee’s Youtube at: youtube.com/user/leejonastattoo.||2/16/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #038 – Mark Sargent||Joining Marsh this episode is Mark Sargent, author of Flat Earth Clues and owner of the website EnclosedWorld.com.||1/19/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #037 – Joey Talley||Joining Marsh today is Reverend Joey Talley – a Wiccan Witch who claims to be able to prevent computer viruses, solve technical issues and much, much more, using Wiccan spells.||4/11/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #036 – Richard O’Connor||Richard O’Connor is anaesthetist and crop circle researcher who is convinced he has evidence that UFOs are routinely visiting the earth. - Support the MSS, our work, and all of our podcasts by making a monthly contribution via Patreon. -||2/26/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #035 – Paul Byrne||Joining me today is Dr Paul Byrne. Paul is a paediatrician and prominent campaigner against organ donation, who has consistently written rejecting the existence of brain death. - Support the MSS, our work,||1/29/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #034 – Ian Clark||Ian Clark is an author and ESP researcher whose book '4.26am' documents his experiences with sleep paralysis and why he believes human beings can communicate over thousands of miles via electrical signals transmitted by the heart. - Support the MSS,||12/8/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #033 – Andy Thomas||Andy Thomas is an author and conspiracy theorist whose book The Truth Agenda and Conspiracies explores a range of conspiracy theories and the areas of their overlap. - Support the MSS, our work and all of our podcasts by making a monthly contribution ..||11/2/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #032 – Frank Strasser||Joining Marsh this month is Frank Strasser, an artist and 9/11 truther who runs the website Actors & Artists for 9/11 truth. - Unfortunately, this interview from July 2014 was affected by an issue with recording equipment,||9/28/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #031 – Greg Caton||Joining Marsh this month on be reasonable is Greg Caton. Greg is an alternative health advocate and supplement promoter, who was imprisoned in 2004 for violating FDA regulations, and in 2009 was listed by Interpol as an international fugitive.||7/27/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #030 – Susan Kennard||Joining Marsh this month is Harley Street EFT practitioner Susan Kennard. Susan came to the attention of skeptics when she appeared on BBC2’s “Inside Harley Street” explaining her use of Emotional Freedom Technique, also known as ‘tapping therap||6/29/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #029 – Ian Jacklin||Joining Marsh this month is former Kickboxer, actor and alternative cancer activist Ian Jacklin. In 2007 Ian produced the film "ICureCancer.Com", which examined people's experiences of alternative cures for cancer.||6/1/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #028 – Bogdan Ziarko||Joining Marsh this month is Bogdan Ziarko – a faith healer and exorcist. You can find out more about Bogdan’s work at www.faithhealerexorcist.com.||5/4/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #027 – Alan Butler||This time on Be Reasonable we're joined by Alan Butler from the website Dawn of Realization. Alan is an author and historian who believes that the Moon and Ceres have far different origins than most astronomers realise.||3/30/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #026 – Mike Buchanan||Joining Marsh this time on Be Reasonable is Mike Buchanan, founder of the UK's only explicitly anti-feminist political party "Justice for Men & Boys (And The Women Who Love Them)."||3/2/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #025 – Leo Rebello||On this episode, Marsh speaks with Dr. Leo Rebello. Leo has been the Director of Natural Health Centre, in Bombay, since 1978. He claims to have delivered over 15,000 lectures in 65 countries and written fifty books.||1/26/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #024 – Harry Rhodes||Joining Marsh this month on Be Reasonable is Harry Rhodes. Harry is a researcher and activist from Chemtrails Projects UK. You can find out more about Harry’s work at www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com||12/15/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #023 – Eugene McCarthy||Joining me this episode is Dr Eugene McCarthy from macroevolution.net. Eugene’s work explores the theory that a conventional view of evolution is incomplete, and that cross-species hybridisation played a significant role in the development of many mod||11/24/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #022 – Jim Humble||This month on Be Reasonable we dip back into the archives for one of the most troubling interviews I've ever been involved in. - Back in 2010, reports emerged about a product called Miracle Mineral Solution - a pseudomedical panacea which was touted a..||10/27/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #021 – Alan Sanderson||This month, Marsh speaks with Dr Alan Sanderson. As well as being the former president of the Spirit Release Foundation, Alan is a psychiatrist who treats psychiatric disorders by removing the inhabiting spirits of the deceased from his patients.||9/29/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #020 – Christopher Doyle||Joining Marsh this month is Christopher Doyle, director of the International Healing Foundation - a group which controversially aims to offer their help to people suffering from unwanted same-sex attraction.||9/3/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #019 – David Boyle||In this month's episode, Marsh spoke with UFO researcher and alternative historian David Boyle, proprietor of Exhibition of the Universe in Blackpool, UK. David regularly gives talks and interviews on all manner of subjects from ancient aliens to psych.||7/30/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable – Episode #018: Rafael Dellal||In this month’s episode we’re joined by psychic Rafael Dellal. Rafael, a clairvoyant and medium, spoke to us about his work, the tools used by mediums, how to spot a real medium from a fake medium and the ethics of psychic readings. -||6/30/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #017 – Richard Freeman||This month, we chat to Richard Freeman. Richard is the zoological director of the Centre for Fortean Zoology. He talks to Hayley and Marsh about cryptozoology and why he thinks there's much more to monsters than just Nessie and Bigfoot...||6/4/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #016 – Vicki Monroe||A show called Cell Block Psychic recently premièred in the US, following self-proclaimed psychic & cold case investigator Vicki Monroe as she meets with notorious murderers and claims to deliver messages from their victims.||4/29/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #015 – Robert Currey||This month, Marsh chats to Robert Currey – an astrologer and researcher with Equinox Astrology.||3/31/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #014 – Lembit Öpik||Former Lib Dem MP, Lembit Öpik is probably already a familiar face after appearances on Have I Got News For You and I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! However, you may not know that he is also a champion for near-earth object studies and a UFOlogis||2/25/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #013 – Jens Foell||Dr Jens Foell is a GP and teaching fellow at Imperial College London, as well as a medical acupuncture practitioner with his own private practice. He regularly uses medical acupuncture with NHS patients, and is part of the council for the British Medic.||1/28/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #012 – Beth Arzy||Beth Arzy is a trainee investigator and team secretary for the Ghost Finder Paranormal Society (GPS). The GPS team was founded in 2007 by Barry Ghai and Ian Wilce and describe themselves as 'an experienced group of professional ghost hunters and parano.||1/2/2014||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #011 – Deborah Houlding||In this episode we interview Deborah Houlding, who creates and reads Horary astrological charts to find an answer to people's questions.||11/25/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #010 – Jacqui O’Reilly||This month on Be Reasonable we speak to intuitive Jacqui O'Reilly. Although not comfortable with the label 'psychic', Jacqui believes she has an ability to make readings and predictions with unnerving accuracy,||11/8/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #009 – Michael Horn||This month on Be Reasonable we speak to American UFO researcher Michael Horn. Michael is one of the most vocal and prolific supporters of Billy Meier - the Swiss septuagenarian who claims to have been visited by aliens regularly throughout his life,||9/30/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #008 – Jonathan Whitcomb||This month on Be Reasonable we speak to American Cryptozoologist Jonathan Whitcomb. Best known for his research into living Pterosaurs, Whitcomb authored a book in 2006 called 'Searching for Ropens' about his research to date,||8/26/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #007 – Andrew Burton||This month on Be Reasonable, we speak with pro-life activist Andrew Burton. Andy is involved in the Milton Keynes chapter of the 40 Days for Life movement - an anti-abortion campaign which pickets abortion clinics worldwide.||7/29/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #006 – Naveena Shine||Naveena Shine recently made the headlines with her 6 month-long 'Living on Light' experiment into living without food - an experiment she ended after just 47 days. Marsh spoke to her about Living on Light, and whether she thinks human beings really can.||6/24/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #005 – Julia Assante||Julia Assante has been working as a psychic and a medium since the 1970's working in both private and delivering public workshops In the 1980's she became involved with past life therapy which she believes can cure many ills.||5/28/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #004 – Ian Doherty||Psychic Medium Ian Doherty works with paranormal investigators and offers public and private psychic readings, giving demonstrations in Spiritualist Churches across England. Ian also claims to be able to see peoples Auras and offers Aura art and Aura p.||4/22/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #003 – Duncan Lunan||Duncan Lunan is an author and astonomer, whose 2012 book 'Children from the Sky' explored the tale of the Green children of Woolpit. According to a 12th century folklore, two children - one a boy, the other a girl - were found in Suffolk, England,||3/25/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #002 – Michael Wilmore||Michael Wilmore is a member of the Flat Earth Society - a group whose members believe that the conventionally-accepted notion of a spherical Earth is incorrect, and that in reality the Earth is flat. Society members have a range of ideas and beliefs as.||2/25/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBe Reasonable: Episode #001 – Anita Ikonen||Anita Ikonen, a Swedish national, describes herself as a medical intuitive, claiming to be able to detect medical information about a person by simply looking at them. She runs a website called Vision From Feeling which documents her abilities,||1/28/2013||Free||View in iTunes|
Better than free bacon
Be Reasonable fills a niche in what is available is most skeptical podcasts. While the others go over why various beliefs are unfounded, Be Reasonable is a conversation with believers. This is a great way to avoid insulating one's self from ideas and listen to how people defend ideas to others and themselves. While Marsh and Hayley do not abuse their guest, they do ask very important questions that make the guest think and answer what we are all asking. For those without the patience to listen to Skeptiko, this podcast is a great look at what people believe with a skeptic to keep it in check.
Better and more interesting than I thought
If you're looking for debunking this is not the podcast for you. Although the hosts do put forward some tough questions, they don't ridicule or make the show entirely about evidence against the claims of the guests. What they end up with is a fascinating look into the psyche of people with unusual beliefs.
In the flat earth episode, the flat earth society seems to be made up of solopsists or people that enjoy puzzles and mental challenges. While they only believe evidence they can directly observe themselves, they have no problem believing in unproven theories about why they should not believe evidence they can see themselves if it contradicts their theory. A friend for instance told me of noticing the curvature of the earth just looking out his balcony at the ocean in Florida. If he lined the horizon up with the top of the straight ledge, he could see that one point appeared first and therefore appeared to be higher. They would answer I'm sure, as they do for sunsets, that "Light is bent by aether. Aetheric eddies cause the cyclical bending of light." Obviously only believing evidence they can see with their own eyes isn't the issue when they can make up wild and unsupported theories to explain that evidence away when it contradicts their previously held beliefs.
This is what Skepticism needs!
I find the podcast very refreshing. The guest explains their beliefs (which I disagree with). instead of getting abusing or arguing, Marsh and Hayley allow the alternative explaination to be heard. The hosts have the ability to ask polite questions which, in a way, point out how the beliefs are unfounded.