Not a Real Job
By Joel Kelly & Chris Van Patten
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Not a Real Job is a better kind of marketing podcast. It’s actually fun. And funny. And useful. Hosts Chris Van Patten and Joel Kelly answer your questions and share their wisdom on all things digital marketing, small business, writing, productivity, social media, and more. Plus, there are plenty of good drinks and bad jokes. Always hilarious, often insightful, Not a Real Job is your new favorite podcast, and the best thing to happen to your business’s online marketing.
||CleanNARJ127: Non-canonical||This week Chris is back from visiting Joel in Canada! And you better believe they went treasure hunting… They also discuss Apple’s recent WWDC reveals like HomePod, iOS11, HomeKit changes, and AR. Quotes Talking Points Apple WWDC 2017 announcements Ge||6/19/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ126: Gender is Weird||Don’t have any expectations about this episode and everything should go great! Lindsay (you know, the one writing this intro summary) is on the podcast this episode to talk about being genderqueer. Chris and Joel have some questions and learn more abou.||5/17/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ125: Overthinking||Joel is about to go through a transition period of his life as he makes a job-related change. This brings out a discussion on the lasting impacts of “major moments” in one’s life and how we remember things later in life.||4/28/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ124: It’s a Little Cattywompus||Carrying on from our recent trend, this episode is heavy on the philosophy. How does stoicism and Buddhism fit into today’s world and political climate? Should we be trying to disengage from our emotions and situations or embrace them?||3/28/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ123: Stay Strong, Good Vibes||It’s a tough time for everyone these days. Should we discuss the bad things happening in the world? Or should we try to bring some lightness and escapism for those whose mental health is suffering under the weight of all the terribleness?||2/6/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ122: Philosophy Podcast||In a post-2016 US Election world, Chris and Joel get philosophical. What is morality? Is it possible to understand, empathize, and fine common ground with others without legitimizing views we find immoral? Why are these people spending so much damn mon...||12/19/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ121: Forming Habits||Since the last episode, Chris and Joel have been through some stuff. Joel is giving not-drinking a try and Chris has just plain had the worst week ever. Habit formation and replacement is the big topic of discussion because of it.||11/3/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ120: Like No One Ever Was||Chris and Joel are back again this week with a new episode. Sorry again for Ep 119’s delay! In this episode they discuss the controversial iPhone 7 and its removal of the headphone jack. Is it merely a herald of a more streamlined technological advance.||8/11/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ119: Spritzin’ All Over the Place||It’s been awhile, friends. But never fear, NARJ was just sleeping for a bit. Well okay, what actually happened was we all kind of forgot to mention it was recorded and then we didn’t edit it and then we didn’t do show notes.||8/9/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ118: Is This The Real Life?||After a maximum of three years, NARJcast finally has its triumphant return! In this extra long episode, Chris and Joel give everyone an update on the State of the NARJcast as well as what they’ve been up to with Firsthand.||4/11/2016||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ117: Hiatus Edition||It’s been a good run, but we need a bit of a break. In Episode 117, Chris announces a hiatus for NARJ, so he and Joel can focus on building Firsthand and the upcoming holiday season. We’ll be back with new episodes (and some exciting changes to the sh||11/27/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ116: I’m Part of Big Pole||Chris, Joel, and Leah take to the mic to discuss some important topics like the weather. They also return to some of the core foundations of the show: hobbies and jobbies. Quotes Talking Points Firsthand Gear Picks Lasko 754200 Ceramic Heater with Adju...||11/18/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ115: Adulting||Chris has returned from his many travels abroad and has conquered the butt disease. To celebrate, he and Joel had a very organized meeting about Firsthand marketing and then discussed the new Apple products.||11/11/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ0114: Pawscast||Where in the world is Chris Van Patten? Joel and Leah aren’t sure so they’ve taken the time to have a quick chat about travel and travel hacks. Quotes Talking Points BuzzFeed – 28 Brilliant Travel Hacks You Need to Know for Summer Vacations Firsthan||11/4/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ0113: A Real Uniquandry||Chris is nearly at cellphone-losing beer limits and with all the travel going on lately there’s not much to talk about. Joel gets some Halloween advice and an education on Minions. Quotes Talking Points Lumi CafePress Gear Picks Nest Thermostat,||10/28/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ112: Defined Marketing||Chris and Joel are back to discussing their app, Firsthand, and their marketing plans. Who is the audience? What social networks will they focus on? These are all important questions every online business should consider!||10/21/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ111: Travel Hacks||After taking a week off from podcasting, this week Chris and Joel talk about all the traveling they’ve been doing lately — both the good and the bad. They also dish out some great travel advice for air travel! Also,||10/14/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ110: Literally No Plans||As you listen to this, Chris is probably in Tokyo, with no plans. Joel may or may not be in Miami. While they’re off globe trotting, you can listen to them discuss iOS 9, life saving, and Halifax. Quotes Talking Points iOS 9 Information Gear Picks Star.||9/30/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ109: Spirit of Adventure||It’s time for a live update from Joel and Leah’s honeymoon in California! They dish out some honeymooning and rental car advice as well as talk about Dan Harmon. Quotes Talking Points Harmontown #163: NeuroTitties Gear Picks FujiFilm Instax 300 Wide C||9/23/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ108: Solo||Joel is away on his much-delayed honeymoon! Chris takes this week to record a short solo episode going into detail about the development of their app, Firsthand. Quotes Talking Points Lucas Cherkewski Firsthand site Firsthand is giving away a set of Tr...||9/16/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ107: Consistency and Segmentry||We know you love podcast segments, so in this episode we’ve got a whole bunch! Cat Talk, Browser Talk, Weather Talk, and Firsthand Talk! As usual, we also have Gear Picks Talk too. Quotes Talking Points Lynx text-based browser Firsthand Gear Picks Damn.||9/9/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ106: Napkin Math||Joel saw a crucial rugby match that truly left an impact on his soul. Chris is getting ready for an extended travel through Asian. But the main topic of this episode is a recent ad for Firsthand that aired in the most recent Reconcilable Differences po...||9/2/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ105: Partnerships||Joel’s microphone has gone missing! But the show must go on, so Chris and Joel talk some more about Firsthand – specifically about partnerships and marketing. They even answer a question! A real live question from a real live listener.||8/26/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ104: Marketing Funnel||Joel is busy moving into his new house, so Chris opts to re-share Episode 43, an episode where we talked about effective marketing for eCommerce and proposal writing. Chris also got a new kitty named Milo! Here is a picture: I woke up to this sight tod...||8/19/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ103: Not Exploding||Continuing the discussion on their new app, Firsthand, Chris and Joel this week talk about marketing. How do they plan to market Firsthand in light of their NARJcast marketing attempts? Joel and Chris are changing things up and won’t be your typical Si.||8/12/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ102: Firsthand||This week’s show is coming out a day later than usual – our apologies! Most of the episode is all about Chris and Joel’s new app, Firsthand, including their initial plans and ideas. Quotes Talking Points Firsthand website Firsthand Twitter Gear Pick||8/6/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ101: Canadioddities||Canada! What are ketchup fries and hickory sticks? Is there a difference between catsup and ketchup? Has Joel talked about Canadian Tire, eh? All these questions and more on this very special episode of Not a Real Job!||7/29/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ100: Super Good Best-time Friends||It’s finally here! The Big One Hundred! Steve and Lindsay come on to talk about their thoughts of the show and, predictably, lots of goofs and giggles throughout this extra-special episode. It really is something to be experienced rather than summarize.||7/22/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ099: Get It Together, Joel||Chris is sleepy. Joel is sick and/or exhausted. After lots of travel, its time to settle down for a little bit. We take this opportunity to discuss how great having a virtual assistant is and why you should get one too.||7/15/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNARJ098: Slippery Slope||Continuing on from last week’s recording, this episode Leah steers the conversation towards advice. How do you turn hobbies into jobbies anyway? Quotes Talking Points Scolding the Winds by Joel Kelly Gear Picks Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter T||7/1/2015||Free||View in iTunes|
Good marketing podcast.
Started listening after hearing about it in an ad on My Brother, My Brother and Me. I appreciated the details they went through when analyzing whether some of their ad campaigns for the show worked. I won't be dropping off anytime soon.
Great advice from some entertaining guys
Chris and Joel really know their stuff and offer great marketing advice on their podcast. They also read all their messages and reviews, I know because they have offered me some great advice on my projects! They also make a sometimes dense subject fun and infuse it with humor and entertainment. I’ve recommended the show to lots of my friends with creative start-ups. Keep up the great work!