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Excellent Album, Confusing Reviews

Let's get this out of the way quickly: the album is great. It is absolutely a progression from where they have been, so don't expect How to Clean Everything. They simply aren't the same band anymore, literally and figuratively.

I'm a little confused as to why so many people decry their use of a capitalist system for distributing their content.

A: most of what they are against is actually the exploitation of human beings and violations of civil rights inherent in a system that puts profit margins ahead of all else. This is not strictly capitalism, but any system of economics that approves of the infinite growth paradigm. The most successful of these ventures has certainly been capitalism, thus the outrage at "the system". Governments are also a common topic for disdain, however, government =/= economics. They are separate ventures with separate responsible parties. Democracy =/= Capitalism for instance. However, when government gets wrapped up in protecting economic ventures, they may say something. Thus the anger that is misread as "support of the left" as opposed to "opposition to tyrannical misuse of power, regardless of political affiliation".

B: even though they are certainly profiting off of a medium that has been, almost categorically, wrapped up these days in the mire of profit before content, since when is changing a system from the inside considered going against your beliefs? The most effective way for them to distribute their music, thus affecting more change should it reach people that were previously not aligned with the same viewpoint, is to utilize all of the systems that have been put in place by the capitalist system that has come to dominate the global economic community. In other words: how would you prefer to get your music? By a nice, convenient download from iTunes, a prime example of big business; or by way of some podunk record label in Eastern Europe or a far flung part of Canada that prints all of their own CD's from plastic that is created from tar sands oil and then shipped to you by some dude on a bike? I mean honestly, I understand complaining about the political slant should it not suit you, but to complain because you are able to buy it on iTunes, and that's not what they're about? Get real. There is no escaping it. We are all unwilling participants. The fact that most of the people who posted reviews complaining about their involvement in said system have no idea what the music means makes me laugh even more, as they clearly like the music but don't understand the message. Yes, they are against capitalism and yet utilize it. Provide me an example of a system of distribution that wouldn't make you pay $100 per cd that they could alternatively use, and then talk.

As far as the deluxe cd goes, do you really think they make that kind of decision? That's contractual. My god people, number of tracks and track length do not a great cd make. Pink Floyd's Animals is 5 songs. It's still one of my favorite albums, even if they could have added more. You don't see me complaining that they "didn't add enough content". Music is art, and art is subjective. Either like it or don't. However, extra tracks, videos, extra content of any kind is usually a marketing decision made by the record label. They likely asked for some b-sides as their contract required a deluxe version of the album. It's pretty typical these days. Prop will possibly see 20 cents on the dollar for this album anyways, do you really think they thought: "Let's go ahead and screw the fans on this one guys. I think it's time we made some MONEY."

/rant

tl;dr
Buy the freaking album, it's great.

One of the greatest bands ever!

First off let me state that Propagandhi's last 2 albums or so were what I thought to be the most "progressive" move for any punk band to make. I say "progressive" because they now remind me if a mix if Pennywise and Slayer at the same time. Sounds like an odd mix at first, but they pull it off PERFECTLY!
With "Failed States" I was really expecting it to not be anywhere close to as good as their previous album, but I was wrong! It's an amazing album and Propagandhi should get so much more recognition than they do how individual their sound is. Propagandhi are the diamond in the sand that every music lover should search for.

Although I thoroughly disagree with every political point of view they profess throughout every song on this album, (except basic human rights and even animal rights) I still love their band for standing for what they believe in.
I might not agree with all the lyrical content, but hell... Shout it from the rooftops guys, because you do it better than anyone! (... And that's coming from an American Christian libertarian)! So if I can put aside my politics to listen to an amazing band, why can't everyone? It's just music people!

I don't listen to many "heavy" bands, but when I do; I want balls to the wall thrashing and that's what these guys deliver in full! Not to mention the melodic tones placed neatly in their albums are perfectly placed and sound so thought out and are some straight beautiful riffs.

Yeah... Propagandhi may have to grow on you, but once they do, they become a part of you. Great album gentlemen, keep pumping out those "progressive thrash-punk" tunes and I'll always be a supporter.

AMAZING!

They never cease to impress. Some of the best lyrics and best musicianship around. These guys are seriously the best. Every single one of their albums is incredible, but this one might be the most excellent from start to finish. It's definitely the thrashiest and most progressive. Like "Potemkin City Limits," the melodies initially seem secondary to the ridiculuous arrangements and sweet playing, but the more you listen to it, the more the sneaky hooks reveal themselves. These guys are almost like gods, come down from Mount Olympus to bring us fire in the form of brilliant, meaningful words and insane riffs.

Biography

Formed: 1986 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Genre: Alternative

Years Active: '80s, '90s, '00s, '10s

As one of Fat Wreck Chords' very first bands, Propagandhi have long been going against the grain of not just society, but even their own record label. Initiated by Chris Hannah and Jordy Samolesky, the band of radicals from Winnipeg, Canada, got together in 1989 and eventually played a show with NOFX. After talking with Fat Mike and realizing they shared the same D.I.Y. attitude, the band agreed to join his fledgling label. Ideally, the band would have loved to skirt the entire capitalist process...
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Failed States (Deluxe Edition), Propagandhi
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  • $12.99
  • Genres: Rock, Music, Alternative, Punk
  • Released: Aug 31, 2012

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