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My favorite band of all time...

When the wheels of commerce spun just so and got their grubby hands on music and turned art into commodity, many bands walked with that slick, profitable devil into the bowels a proverbial hell. But some bands took to the moral high ground and fled the rising tide of capital at the expense of true expression. Propagandhi is one such band. Here is a band that has given so much to it's audience and asked something in return. This is the type of band that changes lives, and I am living proof of that. As silly as it may seem, I truly don't know where I would be in life without Propagandhi. I almost frightens me to imagine a world without this band in it, and how many bands can one say that about? If I had a plea to any music listener it would be to give this band your full, undivided attention. This isn't just catharsis, this is education. This isn't speaking about movements with some cool detachment, this is part of the movement for the betterment of humanity. This is Propagandhi. This is music that matters.

If only...

These guys didn't have such a juvenile view of America and the "Occupy Wall street", whiny meantality They'd be one of the best ever.... (other than the songs the bass player "sings").
I remember listening to the old stuff when it came out and wanting to read Noam Chomsky and all that because it was cool to hate the government and all that, but then I did read Chomsky, and realized that it's all crap. Communist crap. I still love these guys despite the fact I disagree almost completly with most of the lyrics, I actullay find it funny that they hate Capitalism, yet playing in a band is a shining example of how it works, you put out a good product and people will buy it. You don't, they won't. That said, great record, buy it. Get a different point of view and decide for yourself.

Bash away liberals!

Excellent Album, Confusing Reviews

Let's get this out of the way quickly: the album is great. It is absolutely a progression from where they have been, so don't expect How to Clean Everything. They simply aren't the same band anymore, literally and figuratively.

I'm a little confused as to why so many people decry their use of a capitalist system for distributing their content.

A: most of what they are against is actually the exploitation of human beings and violations of civil rights inherent in a system that puts profit margins ahead of all else. This is not strictly capitalism, but any system of economics that approves of the infinite growth paradigm. The most successful of these ventures has certainly been capitalism, thus the outrage at "the system". Governments are also a common topic for disdain, however, government =/= economics. They are separate ventures with separate responsible parties. Democracy =/= Capitalism for instance. However, when government gets wrapped up in protecting economic ventures, they may say something. Thus the anger that is misread as "support of the left" as opposed to "opposition to tyrannical misuse of power, regardless of political affiliation".

B: even though they are certainly profiting off of a medium that has been, almost categorically, wrapped up these days in the mire of profit before content, since when is changing a system from the inside considered going against your beliefs? The most effective way for them to distribute their music, thus affecting more change should it reach people that were previously not aligned with the same viewpoint, is to utilize all of the systems that have been put in place by the capitalist system that has come to dominate the global economic community. In other words: how would you prefer to get your music? By a nice, convenient download from iTunes, a prime example of big business; or by way of some podunk record label in Eastern Europe or a far flung part of Canada that prints all of their own CD's from plastic that is created from tar sands oil and then shipped to you by some dude on a bike? I mean honestly, I understand complaining about the political slant should it not suit you, but to complain because you are able to buy it on iTunes, and that's not what they're about? Get real. There is no escaping it. We are all unwilling participants. The fact that most of the people who posted reviews complaining about their involvement in said system have no idea what the music means makes me laugh even more, as they clearly like the music but don't understand the message. Yes, they are against capitalism and yet utilize it. Provide me an example of a system of distribution that wouldn't make you pay $100 per cd that they could alternatively use, and then talk.

As far as the deluxe cd goes, do you really think they make that kind of decision? That's contractual. My god people, number of tracks and track length do not a great cd make. Pink Floyd's Animals is 5 songs. It's still one of my favorite albums, even if they could have added more. You don't see me complaining that they "didn't add enough content". Music is art, and art is subjective. Either like it or don't. However, extra tracks, videos, extra content of any kind is usually a marketing decision made by the record label. They likely asked for some b-sides as their contract required a deluxe version of the album. It's pretty typical these days. Prop will possibly see 20 cents on the dollar for this album anyways, do you really think they thought: "Let's go ahead and screw the fans on this one guys. I think it's time we made some MONEY."

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tl;dr
Buy the freaking album, it's great.

Biography

Formed: 1986 in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Genre: Alternative

Years Active: '80s, '90s, '00s, '10s

As one of Fat Wreck Chords' very first bands, Propagandhi have long been going against the grain of not just society, but even their own record label. Initiated by Chris Hannah and Jordy Samolesky, the band of radicals from Winnipeg, Canada, got together in 1989 and eventually played a show with NOFX. After talking with Fat Mike and realizing they shared the same D.I.Y. attitude, the band agreed to join his fledgling label. Ideally, the band would have loved to skirt the entire capitalist process...
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Failed States (Deluxe Edition), Propagandhi
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  • Genres: Rock, Music, Alternative, Punk
  • Released: Aug 31, 2012

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