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Editors’ Notes

It's been eight years since Hot Water Music's last studio album; Chuck Ragan went solo, and the others performed as The Draft. Yet the band has been playing together again for the past four, which ensures that the Gainesville, Fla., boys (now men) are firing at full capacity for this new phase of their career. The band members' punk influences are modified to let them better explore the melodies and the joys of being a straightforward rock 'n' roll group, with heartland touches peeking through. Tunes like "Drag My Body," "Safety," "Pledge Wore Thin," and "Drown In It" earn a gravitas that the band would've bulldozed with pure aggression in its early years; now they politely color with a variety of guitar and rhythmic approaches. They even swing at times. The band long ago escaped the emo tag, and while the manicured harmonies of "Wrong Way" lean toward the old days, there's enough raw power here to prove the band is still looking for fresh ways to reinvent itself.

Customer Reviews


Another great release from Hot Water Music, it's been 8 years since their last full length and they haven't missed a beat! Chuck and Chris bring their A game on vocals while Jason's bass playing flows like a river throughout the whole record. George's drum playing is all over the place with out sounding sloppy. If you like melodic punk rock with a kick and gruff vocals. The digital booklet is also a nice touch. This is a great buy.

Doing way more than Existing! Awesome!

Step up from the new what next in my opinion, tried a couple new tricks. Hot water music rocked it again. Kept up the urgency and rhythm and refined their niche in rock bringing it to new heights. Rocks hard and keeps up the heavy beat through most, with some successful experimentation near the end. Rogan and Wollards voice continuously evolve and impress me. Recommended it to not only the hot water music community but to an ever larger group of rockers out there.

Really like 'Boy, your gonna hurt someone,' 'drown in it,' and 'the traps!'

One of the best yet!!!

I have been a HWM fan for many years. Growing up with them has been great. This is by far one of the best albums they have put out. I know I'm the first to review here but I have to say this is just as good as forever and counting. Keep writing amazing albums.


Formed: 1994 in Gainesville, FL

Genre: Alternative

Years Active: '90s, '00s, '10s

The Gainesville, Florida-based post-hardcore quartet Hot Water Music were formed in 1994 by bassist Jason Black, drummer George Rebelo, and singer/guitarists Chuck Ragan and Chris Wollard. Debuting in 1995 with the 7" "Eating the Filler," they soon returned with the EP Push for Coin, rounding out the year with the release of their first full-length effort, Finding the Rhythms, on No Idea. Fuel for the Hate Game followed in 1996, but in the wake of their third album, Forever and Counting, Hot Water...
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