Method To The Madness
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Celebrating the innovative spirit of the Bay Area - we explore the people behind the ideas, the problems they are trying to solve, and what makes them tick. Hosted by producers Ali Nazar and Lisa Kiefer. If you would like to contact the show, please feel free to email: ali at methodtothemadness dot org or lisamttm at gmail dot com. Transcriptions of these programs are available on this site dating back to 2018. The rest are coming soon. If you are interested in a transcription of an earlier episode, please contact us at mail at kalx dot berkeley dot edu. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Andrew Castro | Local musician and author, Andrew Castro, discusses his new book Overcoming Your Anxiety for People on the Go. Transcript: INTRO: This is Method to the Madness, a bi-weekly public affairs show on K-A-L-X Berkeley celebrating Bay Area innovators. Today, your host is Ojig Yeretsian. She'll be speaking with Andrew Castro, a professional singer-songwriter turned author. He's recently written a book, Overcoming Your Anxiety for People on the Go. OJIG: Thank You, Andrew, for coming in today. Welcome to the show. Can you tell us about yourself and why you wrote this book? ANDREW: Yeah. So for me, the book wasn't planned. I kind of just spontaneously decided that I had all this information in my head, and I wanted to sit down and write it. And for me, it was just years of personal experience with the content that's in the book. And so I just kind of felt like a gut feeling that I needed to sit down and just put it out. So I just sat down at my computer, wrote it, and I'd struggled with anxiety and stuff. But it didn't really become like a problem for me until I was about twenty five, I’m thirty three now. It was just kind of built, kind of like happens for a lot of people like a hidden layer that you just think it's kind of who you are. And then all of a sudden, it just kind of explodes just from too much buildup. And that was kind of what happened with me, and I went through years of it, pretty debilitating stuff. And then then I kind of got over it, but I went back in the same patterns, and then I, uh, had another bout with it again for a couple of years. And then I decided that, you know, it's time to make an actual change, not just let's see if I can fix this a little bit, but go back to what I was doing. So I had to really change my entire life patterns along the way. Along the way, I've been a professional musician, too, and that lifestyle doesn't always give the best results for not having anxiety, you know, because you're constantly not knowing where you're gonna be next kind of thing. So but yes. So the book just kind of came out, and it didn't take that long to write. It's short, but I outlined it for a couple weeks and then took about two months on and off to write it. OJIG:How do you define anxiety? ANDREW: I wouldn't put any single definition on it because there's so many different variations of it. People have social anxieties. In a simple term, for me, it's just overwhelming. I think that would be the best way to describe it. It's just an overwhelming feeling that there's, you know, social anxiety people who, like I have a friend who has social anxiety. He has more panic, and I have more generalized anxiety, but it's all comes down to just being very overwhelmed by whatever situation you're in with that anxiety. I have small social anxieties like most people do, but nothing that's overwhelming for me. But, you know, for him, social anxiety is overwhelming, like interacting with new people or being in group settings. It just and I don't feel that. But I can understand what he's going through because I think the general of feeling of anxiety is pretty, pretty close to the same. Just depends. Some people have it in this situation, and some people have in that. For me, I would say it's over just overwhelming sensations in thoughts, and they can just cycle and go back and forth with each other. OJIG:It sounds like it's very common. ANDREW:That's the biggest thing I think I tried to come across within the book is that you're not alone. That's the thing that people see and struggle with the most is when they get these feelings. You can't feel what somebody else is feeling, so you don't know that the things you're feeling aren't just you going crazy that they're actually like a pretty common thing, and I don't usually use stats much. But like there is one that always stuck out was that there's about forty million people in the United States alone that suffer in their life with some sort of anxiety disorder, which is an enormous amount of people. And those were just the people that are telling the truth. You know, there are some that are hiding it or don't want to talk about it. I think in some way almost every human in their life goes through some form and some get caught in it more and it lasts for a very long time and some some don't, some just have, ah, easier time letting go of things. For me, it wasn't like that, I just got caught in a cycle. Habits are a big thing, but, yeah, people are alone. And when that's the first thing that I realized when I started reading other books and other people's blogs and stuff, and I was like, it made you feel a little like, ‘Oh, there's other people with this’. You take a deep breath and then a lot of them have gone through it, and they're like, Oh, yeah, things the anxiety doesn't really bother me anymore. And so you go, ‘Okay, how'd you do that?’ And then you start to learn. I try to tell people to educate themselves as much as possible. Understanding something is the first step to getting over it. I think I compared it in the book to when you have your ah, cell phone and they put, like, new software on it. And, you know, you don't know what the heck’s going on. You know, the apps are changing. You don't know what you're doing, and you get frustrated. But the more you do that, you're not gonna learn anything. So if you just take fifteen minutes and start to learn ‘ah ok’, then it's like ‘Oh, this is actually better’ and then you start to learn the phone then all of a sudden, like, just take the time to learn it and you're not afraid of using your phone. You were like, I mean, with anxiety prior to take a few months or even a year. But if you learn about it, it diminishes the fear that you have over it. OJIG: Take us through the process. How does anxiety start and how does it grow? ANDREW: For everybody is different. So I'll speak for me. It definitely started when I was a young. So I talk in the book about this thing called a snowball effect. And it's a pretty common thing that people use for a ton of things that I thought it applied well to this. I think you kind of have a point in your life where things start to happen and you can go this way or that way, you know. And, uh, I chose this way, whatever that way is. When I was young, I had this memory of being at a drive-in movies with my parents, and I was just I was four or five and I just started crying because I had these overwhelming thoughts that my parents were going to die someday. And I was really young, but the feeling that I remember is that I couldn't control, that was gonna happen. And that for me, it was like a big thing throughout my whole life is not being able to control things around me that are uncontrollable. And then I don't like that. And then, you know, you worry about those things, even though it's impossible to stop those things from happening. But I did that from a young age, and you just don't know. You're unconsciously you don't know what you're doing to yourself. So for me, it started like that when I was really young. And then I went down that way, and I would just constantly worry about things over and over and same patterns. And just after years of doing that, it just ballooned, snowballed. And then best way to put it is that it explodes. When I was in my twenties. I mean, I liked to go out on my friends and drink, and that doesn't help somebody who's already sensitive to anxiety. So then, ah, yeah, just just kind of exploded. So that snowball just builds and you don't know it's building and the only way to stop it from building is to change, and that's very hard. But if you don't change, you know it's like that, Einstein quote, paraphrasing: but the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over. So a lot of people want to not feel what they feel, that they're not yet willing to change what they're doing. But that's not their fault, really. It's just kind of a symptom of anxiety. They're afraid to do it, but when you get there and you start the process, it's well worth it. OJIG: There are a lot of self help books out there about anxiety. What makes Overcoming Anxiety for People on the Go unique? ANDREW: So I definitely took a couple examples from a couple books that I love. And I think what makes my book and those books unique is that there's no, it's not about tricks and gimmicks. No pinch this nerve or, you know, take ten deep breaths. I'll use this essential oil and that, and those are fine, like I'm not knocking those. Those are good, but they're all temporary things that are very impermanent, simple things that will help you in this moment. And my book is more about the long haul. So it's about the process of changing your perspective on your thoughts and your sensations and all that stuff. And I think a lot of books out there nowadays are doing that more. Ten years ago or so, it was just about the gimmicks and tricks. But we've learned so much about, uh, your your mind and, you know and sensations and your awareness that the way to get through anxiety is acceptance, and being aware of it, instead of just reacting to it. Had people interview me before, and they always they go ‘so what are some tricks and tips on how to you know’ and I was like, I mean, I don't really want to give those cause that's not what it's about. I've done those before, and they will, they kind of will help, like breathing obviously help. It does help. But it's not gonna, it's not going to do anything tomorrow or the next day. So you gotta learn, to just see things differently, and it takes a long time. But everybody's process different. Some person get over in two months, two years, five years. It's all different. Everybody's different in that way. Yeah so I think it's unique and just that it doesn't. There's no tricks or gimmicks. It's just everything in there is about how to take big steps to getting or little steps to where you want to be. O | 1/25/2019 | Free | View in iTunes |
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Krazy George | Interview with Krazy George, possibly the first professional cheerleader who began appearing at Oakland Atheletic's games in the 1980s. TRANSCRIPT Speaker 1:[inaudible] [inaudible] Speaker 2:you're listening to KALX Berkeley 90.7 FM, university of California and listener supported radio. And this is method to the madness coming at you from the Public Affairs Department here at Calex dedicated to celebrating the innovative spirit of the bay area. I'm your host, Allen Huizar. And today we are honored. Speaker 3:I have [00:00:30] crazy George with us. Hey, crazy. George was out. You said my name. I like that last stop. Let's talk. Let's talk. So we have crazy Georgians studio. Crazy. George is famous for a lot of things, but the number one thing I think you're famous for is being the world's first and longest tenured and only full time cheerleader is, I like your title. You gave it. It's perfect. Yes, right. Summed it up perfectly. I am the only person probably in the world that makes [00:01:00] his job, makes his living cheering for teams, getting people to cheer for the team. That's what I do. And they'd pay me enough to make living. Nice. So let's talk about how you get started as a professional cheerleader. You were a sent, you went to San Jose State, is that right? That's right. Mighty San Jose state test. So what, what started to draw you to cheering? Speaker 3:Like was it something that you had always done or was it in college? How did you get started now? I was pretty quiet person but my best friend don bogged and brought a drum and a bugle to a [00:01:30] football game and I couldn't play the bugle cause that takes talent. So I started playing the drum and started pounding on it and all the students at San Jose state started following me and him. And by the end of the football season, I was just sitting in the stands. Everybody was following me. So the cheerleaders asked me to go out. So I went out and they elected me cheerleader the next year and I was a pathetic cheerleader cause I couldn't remember the routines and the words at the same time, I was really bad. So I went off on my [00:02:00] own. I started doing my own little thing with my drum, not everybody following me. Speaker 3:And over the years I just started branching out to pro teams. They loved it. They started hiring me and in 1975 after teaching for four years, I quit teaching. I had to quit those four kids. I was warping their minds. Yeah, you'd probably, screaming on a field is a little bit more of a appropriate place for you and that's right. Well, I want to ask about a lot of things, but you said that the cheerleaders, you couldn't remember [00:02:30] their kind of traditional attorney, you're like a disruptor. You're not like a normal chiller. You call yourself a cheerleader, but you weren't doing the cheerleading routines. How did they take that when you went off on your own? Well, that was the good part. I'm, since I couldn't really fit in with a squad, it was better I worked by myself or off to the side where I could get all the students and the alumni involved in the game. Speaker 3:And so that's how he sort of honed my style. And then from then, then on I was invited to go do an Oakland seals game for [00:03:00] the NHL years ago and I did one game for, for the fun of it. I was invited by a hockey team, a baseball team, went up with them and I got the whole crowd screaming. Nobody knew me. And at the end of the game, um, everybody was, was talking about me. And the next day in the paper, it was a big article on me. Nice. And one of the players said, if he comes back, I'd give him a ticket. So I called him up, he gave me a ticket. I went to another game producer and I was a regular at the Oakland Seals, [00:03:30] hockey games, Oakland seals. Where did they play? They played there in the coliseum where the warriors play a, it was great. Speaker 3:So you, um, so you were at San Jose state where you kind of found this passion. It sounds like you went, you diverted for a teaching for a little while. What were you teaching? I dumb murdered. Where were you teaching? I was teaching very little. Those poor sleep problems. The subject matter I taught wood shop, metal shop and electronics. Oh, okay. I see what shops make sense. So, um, you, uh, [00:04:00] you came back at San Jose state, you did a little Oakland schools, but wasn't it like the big place you got discovered was that the earthquakes? Is that, yes, that was, that was the first pro team I ever worked for except the open seals, which weren't paying me. They weren't paying you. So you got, when you got to check out the earthquakes. Yes. I went in there and they actually called me up and they said, would you like to open up the season for us and be with us for some of the Games? Speaker 3:And I said, well, sure, I'd love it. And in essence he said, well, how much do you want to get paid? And I said, well, how about 35 bucks a game? [00:04:30] And yes, they gave me 35 bucks a negation asked for more. Well, I did. After about three days, I'm realizing maybe I should ask for more. This crowd reaction was the greatest crowd reaction you could ever see in your life. It just revolutionized soccer up until that point. That was nobody growing over 7,000 people. A game for professional soccer. That game first game 16,000 and they were mayhem there. The fans became fanatics and like [00:05:00] one, well it's not quarters in there, but before the first half everybody was going nuts and I was on full time with that team. Who was, what year was that? 1974 first year. The quakes that I started, I'm still with the earthquakes and I'm opening up their new stadium on the 22nd of March. Wow. Did you say 1974 74 that is for those guys to the math. That's 40 plus years I scares. Yes. Yeah. That's amazing. So your first professional gig of 35 bucks a game. [00:05:30] It was for the earthquakes and then I think I read somewhere that Lamar Hunt. Yeah. [inaudible] Speaker 3:Kansas City chiefs know this is the NFL. The big boys, big boys. He saw you whip this crowd into a frenzy. I see that he saw me doing this earthquake game. The first game. He couldn't believe the reaction that it was his league there. Earthquakes were part of his league. This was not the mls. This is an old league. Right. What the name of that [inaudible] I think what a memory guy. [00:06:00] Yeah, it's amazing. So he saw me there and somehow over the next year he said, I would really like to see George at a football game at Kansas City. And the manager were arranged it and I went in and this was a greatest. And now I'm actually with a really glamorous team. The Kansas City chiefs. Yeah, I'd go in unannounced. Unknown. Nobody knew me. Arrowhead was, it was arrow. It was, wow. It was 60,000 people, 60 70,000 people. Speaker 3:[00:06:30] I went in before the first quarter. I started working the crowd. By the first quarter I had shares going anywhere. By the first half I had back and forth. Kansas City. Oh No. Casey Gay. See back and forth across the stadium. They couldn't believe it. The whole game. They stayed off. Seven 60,000 people stayed and they lost 45 to nothing and wow. And they still stayed in Lamar? I couldn't believe it. He said, when we have a game like this, nobody's here [00:07:00] at the end of the game. And they stayed. I want you full time. Wow. So you got hired full time, full time for the whole season for them. Wow. So you had a $35 per game and in the soccer, what would you be? Well now it went up to 500 a day. Wow. That was good. And that's pretty sweet. Yes. So you're starting to see, you're like, wow, I can, is this the first time when you're like, I could do this for a living? Speaker 3:Well, it started off a little earlier than that. When the [inaudible], the St Louis Blues called me back in like 1972 [00:07:30] and offered me a full time contract. This guy was like a renaissance guy. He owned the blues. He saw me at the, at the Oakland Seals Games. He thought it was so great. He wanted to hire me, he wanted me to quit teaching, come there, and he was going to pay me 12,000 bucks to do the 40 home games. I was making 9,000 a year full time. [inaudible] Lau. I couldn't believe it. So he made the offer, but it had to be in, can it only would it go [00:08:00] out and the offer would be effective if the Oakland seals folded? They were folding my, they were kept there for two more years. And both years you made the offer? Third Year came around, I was ready to go. I was ready to quit teaching and he got ill. Speaker 3:And you stopped working with the, uh, St Louis Blues. So I lost out of that, but it gave me the idea that somebody might pay me that much. So how'd you get to the first kind of, did you ever get a gig where it was like a whole season? Like after the Kansas [00:08:30] City? That was, was that for the chiefs? Did you do the whole, and the Kansas Cassidy, she's already the same time. The Colorado Rockies ice hockey hired me. The BC lions, Canadian football hired me. And that was all in 1975 76. So I was making enough money. I could quit teaching. Nice. So we're talking to crazy George who is the world's only full time professional cheerleader here on [inaudible] at professional male model. I like to think of myself like that. I'm sorry, I forgot that part. Okay. This is a method to the medicine. Speaker 3:KLX Berkeley 90.7 [00:09:00] FM. I'm your host deleon Huizar and so George, you got this crazy idea that you could do this for a living. Now I have a question. First of all, you've talked a lot about different sports. Is there a different tactics that you use in different sports? Actually not really. I act like a fe and wants to react. That's why I'm successful when I go into a game. Well maybe it wasn't that 45 and nothing Kansas City chiefs game that I've did [00:09:30] first, but I do the as many fan cheers as the fans want and I react like a fan wants to. I just stand up. T | 2/13/2015 | Free | View in iTunes |
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Jenny Kassan, John Katovich Part 1 | CROWDFUNDING | 5/11/2012 | Free | View in iTunes |
105 |
Sharlyn Sawyer | Ballet Afsaneh | 4/13/2012 | Free | View in iTunes |
106 |
Yalda Modabber | Farsi Pre-School | 11/25/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
107 |
Chris Hansen | Bamm.TV | 10/14/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
108 |
Kevin Casey | New Avenue Homes | 9/2/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
109 |
Lenny Rachitsky | LocalMind | 8/5/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
110 |
Adam Berman | Urban Adamah | 7/22/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
111 |
Lisa Frasier | The Bay Citizen | 6/24/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
112 |
Bruce Aagard | Earthquake Safety Program | 5/6/2011 | Free | View in iTunes |
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