Art and Labor
By OK Fox & Lucia Love
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Art & Labor chronicles the stories of social justice organizing within the arts. We hope to center the human cost of the “art world” and advocate for fair labor practices for artists, assistants, fabricators, docents, interns, registrars, janitors, writers, editors, curators, guards, performers, and anyone doing work for art & cultural institutions.
||CleanEpisode 31 – #supportVAGstaff||The Vancouver Art Gallery workers on currently on strike (@VAGonstrike)! We spoke with long-time curator Grant Arnold about the conditions that led to the strike and how we can support VAG workers. One thing we can all do is write to the director and bo||2/8/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 30 – The Gas Leak||The dream team is back to get that goop!!! We talk Anime Marx, Venom, and after a long mental breakdown find hope in the recent wins of the anti-Amazon fight. If this episode is too NYC-centric replace “The L Train” with a local crumbling inf||2/5/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 29 – New Museum Union||UNIONIZE THE ART WORLD! This week we congratulate members of the New Museum Union’s (@newmuseum_union) bargaining committee Dana Kopel (@decafdana), Lily Bartle (@hole_earth), and Alicia Graziano. They won their vote to officially joined UAW Local||1/29/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 28 – Nightlife and Labor Rights with Eric Shorey||We’re joined by Eric Shorey (@Eric_Shorey) to discuss the tricky business of wages and performance. We get into the particularities of trying to organize/advocate for better pay from venues, and how different types of performers are pitted against||1/23/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 27 – Local 30 at MoMA PS1||More museum unions!! This week we were joined by members of the International Union of Operating Engineers (IUOE) Local 30 at MoMA PS1 (@IUOELocal30) Chris Haag (@allwasalmost), Robin Kaiser-Schatzlein (@robinsreport), and Gary T Murphy. We discuss thei||1/16/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 26 – Whole Worker||A transcript is coming soon! Apologies for this sample rate fiasco, we messed up! This episode we’re joined by Matthew Hunt (@TheSerpicoSide), Tyler (@fakejohnmackey), and Glamazon (@WholeWorkerWFM) the founding members/social media manager for Wh||1/9/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 25 – International Solidarity||TWENTY-KNIFE-TEEN IS HERE AND WE’RE IN A SOMBER MOOD! This episode we try to wrap our heads around a couple different international protest movements including the YPG International Academy, Hito Steyerl’s 2004 film “November”, an||1/2/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanA Gift For You!||Please enjoy this special surprise. It’s a tiny little bonus you’ll just have to click on. Happy Holidays! Don’t get lonely without us. See you next year!||12/27/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 24 – Murray Bookchin||Hello! Turns out “Google Murray Bookchin” is a meme, but uh, do it. If you liked our Ursula K. Le Guin episode you’ll love our new anarchist grandpa! Join us for a discussion of Post-Scarcity Anarchism, ecology, technology, self-determi||12/18/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 23 – Neo Yokio is an Anti-Capitalist Masterpiece||Ezra Koenig, go on Art and Labor! You deserve this big Toblerone! Note: spoilers don’t really start til like 20 minutes in. We went to the anti-Amazon community forum and read a bunch of Bookchin, but instead of discussing either of those things we||12/11/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 22 – We Appreciate Power with Liz Ryerson (Part 1)||What will it take to make you capitulate? We appreciate Liz Ryerson!! OK, Lucia, and Liz discuss fascism, stealing, and losing your sense of self within the capitalist cannibalistic music industry. It’s a music episode!! From Beyoncé and Josh Groba||12/6/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanA Guided Tour of Andy Warhol at The Whitney Museum||**SUPPORT US ON D.RIP/ARTANDLABOR FOR A FREE MUSEUM PASS** Join your two favorite gallery ghouls OK Fox and Lucia Love for a journey through the heart of hypercapitalist hellscape that is Chelsea in 2018. We used an expired press pass and expired studen||11/27/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 21 – Vice 2||Debunking some b******t from the “socially conservative” left. Red Scare triples down on ableism and Angela Nagle dips her toe in strasserism. Why is lefty media just becoming Vice 2? We also check in on Long island City, site of labor strugg||11/20/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 20 – Amazon Cuomo||BE LIKE BERLIN! That is our message for those who are ready to fight Amazon’s new headquarters. Kreuzberg successfully blocked Google, and we can too. We read some good take downs from Ben Davis and Queens Neighborhoods United. Plus we take a lot o||11/14/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 19 – Heath Care with Artie Vierkant & Beatrice Adler-Bolton||We tackle the art world’s relationship to health care (spoiler: if you’re in the US, it hardly exists). We also discuss the massive societal failures that are actively causing mass death for chronically ill or differently abled people. Final||11/5/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 18 – F**k off Paglia||This episode we dive into the criticism surrounding Red Scare and their recent profile in The Cut. Mostly we discuss the ideology shaped by Camille Paglia, an individualist feminist who aligns herself with the alt-right favorite’s dad Jordan Peter||10/31/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 17 – Art Comic with Matthew Thurber||Matthew Thurber joins us as our first in-studio guest!! We discuss his new book Art Comic, now available through Drawn & Quarterly. The book has direct parallels to our lives, it’s kinda nuts, I’m still not over it. We discuss art school||10/23/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanDISPATCH – Midwest Fun||We got a modest amount of funding to travel to the Midwest to participate in Erin K Drew’s amazing art talk show, Putty! Although we had some incredible support, we definitely returned to NYC in the red. Please consider supporting us on Drip for th||10/18/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 16 – Housing and Displacement||Go to the 3rd Anti-Columbus Day Tour: https://www.facebook.com/events/235077237185003/ We build on our “Artwashing and Soho” episode using our direct experiences and observations of gentrification in our neighborhoods. We do a “Goofus a||10/4/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 15 – W.A.G.E. & SPX & Marx@200||We went to many events so you didn’t have to. We discuss the Festival Workers Association born during the many controversies of this year’s Small Press Expo. While OK was in Maryland Lucia went to the Marx@200 show at Verso Books, which was a||9/26/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanREADING – 9.5 Theses on Art and Class||Sorry for the delay, I was working the polls from 5AM-10PM yesterday! F*****g wild! We will discuss it and SPX next week when I escape the hurricane zone. Today we read Ben Davis to you. For more, buy his entire book of the same name. Boots Riley inte||9/14/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 14 – What is the Proper Way to Display a U.S. Flag||Jingoism! For the inherently racist American imperial project?? Capitalism with a conscious??? We’re NOT having it. We talk destroying and deconstructing the American flag at home and abroad. Please check out the full show notes of this one. If you||9/8/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 13 – Bad Art World||We go through the demands of Bad Art World’s A contribution towards a programme for the arts on a brutally hot August evening in NYC. It’s a contemporary application of Trotsky’s manifesto on revolutionary art. “Eighty years ago t||8/29/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanREADING – Manifesto: Towards a Free Revolutionary Art||We’ve decided to start reading art manifestos in full and providing light commentary. First up, of course, is 1938’s Towards a Free Revolutionary Art ghostwritten by Leon Trotsky, signed by Diego Rivera and André Breton. Trotsky was one of th||8/26/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 12 – Art as Agency (and The Dirtbag Left)||We yelled at the mayor! This episode is a response to a recent Chapo Trap House interview about music, identity politics, and activism (listen here: https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/unlocked-amber-interviews-aaron-j-leonard). We want to challen||8/21/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 11 – HOW NOT TO BE SEEN||A F*****g Didactic Educational AUDIO File! We basically spin a weird collage about surveillance and privacy (a lost cause). A lot of time traveling this episode. We go back in time 5-7 years when folks were rushing Youtube with How To videos like it was||8/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 10 – Post Cold War Art and the CIA||The department of defense, the CIA, and the FBI have all had a hand in influencing art, culture, and academia. We discuss the Iowa Writer’s Workshop, Marvel movies, Rockefeller, modernism, futurist fascism, and Mexican muralism. Are you bummed abou||8/7/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 9 – The YouTube Shooter (The Internet vs Dasein)||Content warning right at the top, this episode we discuss guns, violence, and suicide. We read through the Hito Steyerl essays “Is the Internet Dead?” and “The Terror of Total Dasein: Economies of Presence in the Art Field” We get||8/1/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 8 – Sorry to Bother You||We saw Sorry to Bother You and it was THE BEST MOVIE and THE ONLY MOVIE! We celebrate Chairman Boots Riley’s new masterpiece. We try to process the race and gender roles depicted in the film, but we’re way more excited to do a working class a||7/29/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 7 – Museums in an Age of Planetary Civil War||Art is being used to fund and perpetuate war. The stateless wealthy use the art market as a tool to extend and maintain the class divide. Learn all about it in this mostly serious and depressing episode. My cat lightens the mood at one point. I wonder i||7/20/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanDISPATCH – Welcome to Art and Labor!||We had a tweet go viral! Artnet published a pseudoscience garbage article claiming that artists’ brain chemistry causes them to not what to be paid for their work, we told them to f**k off with that noise. This episode breakdown the discourse, and||7/12/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 6 – A Drunken Intro to Hito Steyerl||HITO STEYERL DANK MEME STASH! Hey ya’ll, we’ve got some FEELINGS this episode. Half this episode is venting about some strange/s****y art world jobs we’ve had. We also mention decolonization practice, Walter Benjamin, cultural Marxism,||7/6/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 5 – Anarchy in Berlin and Pride Month||*UPDATE* ICE has cancelled all hearings for Monday June 25th at 201 Varick in response to #OccupyICENYC. Follow @MACC_NYC for updates. There are other sites of deportation in the city the protest may move to. Apologies for the sound quality of this epis||6/24/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanDISPATCH – #OCCUPYICENYC with the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council (MACC)||We’re back! Lucia has returned from Berlin! This episode we talk with the Metropolitan Anarchist Coordinating Council (MACC) and others spontaneously gathered at the ICE processing center/Immigration Center on 201 Varick Street to protest our count||6/23/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 4 – Artwashing and Soho||Call us Anna Delvey ’cause we’re delving into Soho. We get into the early days of some of the most powerful people in the art market, and how their greed has gone on to destroy neighborhoods and countless lives. This episode we try to demysti||6/3/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanDISPATCH – MoMA Local 2110’s Party on the Pavement||WE CAN’T EAT PRESTIGE! We joined the picket line in front of the Museum of Modern Art to greet the guests at their annual fundraiser “Party in the Garden” The MoMA workers organized their own “Party on the Pavement” to ampli||5/31/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 3 – Black Emergency Cultural Coalition and Women Artists in Revolution||Beep beep!! New Art and Labor here! Your favorite podcast focusing on the on-going struggle to survive as an art or cultural worker. Hosted by O.K. Fox and Lucia Love. This episode we fill you in even more social justice activism happening in the late s||5/29/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 2 – Black Mask aka Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers||Welcome back to Art & Labor! A podcast focusing on the on-going struggle to survive as an art or cultural worker. Hosted by O.K. Fox and Lucia Love. This episode we get into Black Mask aka Up Against the Wall Motherfuckers aka “The Family”||5/27/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 1 – Art Workers Coalition and the Guerrilla Art Action Group||Welcome to Art & Labor! A podcast focusing on the on-going struggle to survive as an art or cultural worker. Hosted by O.K. Fox and Lucia Love. This episode we discuss two groups formed during the wide student and worker unrest that characterized 196||5/20/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
Focused and Sure of itself
This is one of the few podcasts that I’ve listened to that stays on point at all times. It’s pushed me to think differently about the production of art. OK an Lucia are witty personalities that are very welcoming to their listeners. They just sound like great people.
Just discovered this podcast...
And it's always a good time! The hostesses with the mostesses have a good chemistry and the cultural commentary is always top notch. Excellent and recommended.
Host of Parallax Views
Don’t be deterred by the “Art” in Art & Labor - it’s a refreshing, albeit NYC centric, left perspective. Think early Chapo - but funnier, with fewer penises and a stronger focus on tangible labor issues (instead of labor playing second string to a critique of the media meta-narrative of the moment).