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Flat Earth Conspiracy

By Lori Frary

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Is it possible we're living on a basically flat plane and not a ball, spinning at 1,100+ miles per hour holding all the oceans in place with gravity - yet not crushing the petal of a flower? Examine the facts before you decide for yourself. "The best way to know if you truly have an open mind is to be able to question a belief system that has been ingrained in you your entire life." - Lori Frary

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Full disclosure: The writer of this review believes in a spherical earth and assumes the reader does as well.

If you're just an average person who stumbled across the title of this podcast and then decided to listen to an episode just to see how weird it was, it would probably surprise you to learn that you have some common ground with its hosts, Lori Frary and Lawrence Wright. They believe, as l'll bet you do, that it's preposterous to assume that the earth is a flat disc circled with a two mile high wall of ice and covered by a dome.

Forward of that, your beliefs and theirs are almost certain to diverge. They do, after all, they believe the earth is flat. But they offer a different model, one with corners and a certain amount of teleportation). But at its heart, this program tells the story of two people who believe something so earnestly as to risk ostracism from an already marginalized group.

The world of Flat Earth Theorists is richer than you might suspect. It is rife with allegiances and betrayals, stalwart idealists and agent provocateurs. Every counter opinion is a potential PSYOP and every dissenter (among these dissenters) might be a puppet of government mind control. There is a broad cast of personalities, each vying for attention and validation in the way of Facebook likes or Youtube views, which, in this shadowy world of hidden truths, seem to be the coin of the realm. There's contention between the authors of conflicting theories, open questioning of the movement's leadership and suspicion at every turn. They've got a real Game of Thrones thing going on over here.

The belief in a flat earth is often rooted in biblical literalism, so you might expect there to be an evangelical overtone to the presentation, but interestingly, there isn't. Frary, in fact, goes so far as to refer to her detractors with an impolite word that rhymes with 'blucktards'.

I was particularly impressed by a section of one episode in which our hosts mused aloud about eclipses. Neither of the hosts can imagine how they can be predicted with such precision and they marveled, openly and honestly, about how amazing it was. It's easy to imagine avoiding topics without easy answers, being wary of appearing uncertain. This speaks to an open-mindedness that might surprise the listener.

(Note: this freewheeling, off-the-cuff dialog also led them to conclude that the International Space Station, since it crosses the International Date Line multiple times a day, is traveling backwards in time.)

So, should you, a "glober" as we are sometimes called, listen to this podcast? I say "yes". And not as an excuse for you to be snotty and judgmental. There's nothing you can say or type to belittle and malign these people that has not been said and typed a thousand times before. There are lessons here, REAL lessons about belief, perception and confirmation bias. As a bonus, if you can listen to 24 hours 37 minutes and 3 seconds (the combined duration of the itunes-available episodes) of people carving up the laws of the physical world to accommodate an imaginary construct, something as simple of looking at the moon, with its simple truth and beauty, becomes new again.

The things you believe most deeply are the very beliefs you should be most suspicious of, because you never question them.

Prior to listening to this show, I believed the earth was a sphere for the sinful reason of believing what the scientists say. Now I believe it because in every flat earth model I've seen, the sun never crosses the horizon, which is something that bazillions of people have seen it do twice daily for as long as we've had eyeballs and bothered to call ourselves people. Additionally, having listened to 24 hours 37 minutes and 3 seconds of single-minded and highly-motivated people struggle to replicate even the most basic characteristics of a spherical earth on a flat map, I can also categorize their failure as Observable Phenomena.

Flat Earth belief apparently strikes suddenly. Both of the hosts and many of the people they talk to relate stories of being openly contemptuous of the idea one day, and embracing it fully the next (although, it seems that having a long history of disbelieving every single thing you're told increases the likelihood of this happening). There's an amusing phrase that Frary often repeats, "Once you go flat, you never go back." There's also a troubling variant, "If I flip, it's because I've been tortured."

That's not the attitude that moves us forward, Lori Frary. Life is long. The chance for you, or for any of us, to change our minds will exist for as long as that forty-mile diameter sun races through your broad, unbending sky.

Resources (lack there of that are searchable) and thank you to the last reviewer

Finding genuine places for discussion with individuals who have had more exposure to this topic would be great, a few were mentioned in the first several episodes but after searching, all I've found are Flat earth bashing groups and articles and individuals very quick to criticize those ready to begin questioning what has been handed down in the education system. Frustrating to say the least. Wonderful place to listen to this conversation as it develops. Tough to swallow at first, but honestly having been in a plane flying across the country and the Atlantic, I've not witnessed a curve. Having traveled the longest bridge in the country and seeing the shore.. From the on ramp on the opposite side... I'm ready to consider it. So glad this podcast is still running. Thank you to the last reviewer for being incredibly well spoken and respectful in response despite differing beliefs. The respect is mutual, at least from me if no one else.

Wow... Just. Wow!

This is easily the most entertaining podcast I have ever listened to. These guys have no clue and it is extremely entertaining. One episode I listened to they talked (and laughed) at the concept of gravity being ridiculous then immediately switched to talking about how there must be "Pac Man" portals on earth because the measured distances from place to place can't be reconciled on a flat earth map. They can't believe there is an attractive force between two masses (that has been physically measured, replicated and proven to accurately predict planetary motions) ergo the world has to be flat. Also since it must be flat and we can't reconcile the measured distances on earth on a flat map then there must be portals to account for the discrepancies. So gravity = crazy concept, portals that no one has ever seen and have no evidence of = truth. I know these guys are serious but the cast listens like a great parody skit on SNL and it is great entertainment to me. Keep up the good work guys and keep your tinfoil hats on tight!

Flat Earth Conspiracy
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  • Category: Society & Culture
  • Language: English

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