I Guess We'll Do It That Way
By Mama Bear Studios
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A weekly conversational comedy show where Isaiah and Jon talk about life, popular culture and Zay's progress as he directs his first feature film, ROLLERS, a dramatic comedy about a struggling concert venue.
||Explicit29. Rollers Music Fest & Jon Read Rollers 3 Times (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 20)||Zay's on a hiring spree. Jon read Rollers not once, not twice, but 2.5 times and we're thinking about throwing a Rollers Music Festival AT the venue. Hoot city over here.||12/11/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit28. Are We Just Waiting For Guffman (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 19)||Jon forces Zay to answer the all-important question... Is he a good director? Well, at the end of the day it doesn't matter because eventually we'll all be under a glacier.||12/6/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean27. Merrily We Roll Along (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 18)||Zay and Jon rehash Thanksgiving. There's also a mega Rollers update sprinkled with some self-reflection (obvi).||12/3/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean26. Is Anyone Having Any Fun?! (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 17)||It's a busy week here in Rollers-Wood. Lots going on. Just... just listen to the episode, ok?||11/20/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit25. No One Gives a Crap About Hollywood. Also Jon Sings Weezer. Feat. Bryce McGuire||We're back in the studio with Bryce (the creepy basement for Jon) talking about how to stay grounded in the pursuit of greatness. We also get a special treat: Jon sings for the first (and possibly last) time.||11/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit24. Bryce McGuire is a Successful Writer/Director… And he’s Broke||Very special guest Bryce McGuire joins us to tell the story of how he went from dead-broke screenwriter turned kindergarten teacher to setting up a couple of projects with major studios and Stevie Spielberg.||11/13/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit23. Scary Movies, Stoner Ghosts and Serial Killers (The Rollers Diaries Vol. 16)||Halloween may be over but we're not done with it yet. This week we're talking scary movies and Zay has a couple of proposals for Jon. One of them requires Jon to escape his creepy basement by eviscerate himself. But is Zay just running from the real wor||11/9/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit22. Zay Gets a Big Fat Stiff Arm, but he's Building the Perfect Soundtrack // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 15||Every rose has its thorn and rejection is a big huge nasty thorn hiding in the fancy little rose bush we call Hollywood. But Rollers is on to bigger and better things including the perfect soundtrack.||11/6/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean21. Zay's Crushing Hard on an Actor and Needs a Gift for an Agent // The Roller Diaries Vol. 14||It's your favorite morning show and this week Zay is crushing hard on a new actor (he can't say who it is, but he's apparently a Tony Award Winner). We also talk about current box office smashes and settling the remote west. It's a real bonanza.||10/30/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean20. VR Won't Replace Traditional Movies and Long Takes are Overrated||It's been a serious couple of weeks so this week we're taking a lighter approach. We talk about some music we've been listening to lately, Chinese social scores, and why Zay thinks long takes are usually overrated.||10/23/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean19. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 3 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 13||The final installment of the convo about whether to blow up Rollers or stay the course. We also cover "A Star Is Born."||10/19/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit18. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 2 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 12||Jon and Zay continue their conversation about whether trying to make Rollers at a much larger budget is crazy... or so crazy it just might work.||10/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean17. Is Rollers Dead? (Pt. 1 of 3) // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 11||The Feb. 4 start is just around the corner and Zay is wondering if he has the resources he needs to make the version of Rollers that he sees in his head. Should he scrap everything and go for a bigger budget? Or dig deep and make it with what he has?||10/12/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean16. Should We "Save the Cat" or Let It Die? A Discussion About Script Structure||Do all great movies rely on the same "formula" for their plots? No. But do most of them end up hitting a lot of the same beats in very similar ways? Yup. This week we talk about all of this, including the highly controversial author and screenwriter, Bl||10/5/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit15. A Deep Dive on Scripts & Zay Breaks Down His Script "The Sidekick"||This week is a take no prisoners exploration of scripts and how they work on the page. No tangent trigger warning necessary, because this one is pretty much all business. Next week we're going to dive into the highly controversial topic of structure and||10/2/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean14. Rollers Has a Start Date, Anamorphic Lenses and Earthquakes // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 10||Nerd alert. We're talking anamorphic lenses, Super 16mm film stock and traveling back to ancient Rome, where we can't wait to create an empire-wide addiction to Flappy Bird. We also get into some movie and podcast recommendations and analyze a life done||9/25/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean13. Writing Scripts, Getting Big Dogged & The Calabasas Clambake // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 9||It's been a great week for Rollers and Zay is literally shouting about it from the mountain tops (the same mountain in fact that has the Hollywood sign stapled onto it). We also talk about scripts, how they're sold, and whether or not Jon should read Ro||9/18/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean12. Tax Credits, Penny Stocks and Peter Dinklage's Dingaling // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 8||The conversation about locations continues. Should Zay shoot in a Masonic Temple Lodge? How much would it cost to shut down Times Square? And why are they making so many movies in Atlanta?! We also introduce the inaugural episode of "Jon talks about mon||9/14/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean11. Locations, Locations, Locations Pt. 1 // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 7||Zay is looking for the perfect concert venue to set Rollers, but without a ton of money to throw at the problem, scheduling can be tricky. But isn't everything shot in front of a green screen these days anyway? Part 2 continues this Friday.||9/11/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean10. T-Shirt Giveaway and Halfassed History // Bonus Episode||It's time for the long awaited (and overly promoted) T-shirt giveaway. We also talk about... well lots of other totally unrelated things.||9/7/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit9. Good Artists Copy; Great Artists Steal // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 6||Spoiler Warning: We don't actually talk about locations this week... But we do check in on Zay's search for actors and talk about cinematic influences on Rollers, including the Anderson Brothers (Paul Thomas and Wes). We also give a little time to the l||9/4/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean8. What's the Point of Making a Movie? Is it Worth the Risk? // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 5||It's time for a little existential crisis check-in. How do you know when it's time to move on from a project? How do you plan for the future without losing sight of the present? And what does it feel like to invite judgment? Jon and Zay get pretty deep||8/28/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit7. Zay Almost Died at Sundance // Feat: Steve Smallman||Isaiah and Jon recount Zay's near death experience at Sundance; we FINALLY solve the head in the box mystery and Zay's dad jumps on the horn to correct (and corroborate) the record of Zay torching a school. It's a real pyro buffet up in here.||8/21/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit6. A Humiliating Confession and Mission Impossible (for Jon) // Feat: Uncle Nate||This week we get Uncle Nate on the horn to discuss Mission Impossible: Fallout. Unfortunately the "mission" to see the movie proved impossible for Jon so he spent the night playing darts instead. Zay also makes an embarrassing confession relating to the||8/14/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit5. Never Goin' Back // In Theaters Now!||In 2017 Isaiah and Mama Bear Studios helped produce a film called "Never Goin' Back." It played Sundance in 2018 and got bought by A24. It's NOW BEING RELEASED IN THEATERS. Jon and Isaiah talk about how Mama Bear got involved with the project and why th||8/7/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean4. What Do Producers Do? Also Zay Has a Casting Director // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 4||What do producers do? And are all executive producers just rich bros trying to get laid? Jon and Zay also dive into the difference between indie and studios projects and Zay talks about his awesome casting director!||7/30/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit3. What Makes a "Successful" Indie Movie? // The Rollers Diaries Vol. 3||What makes an indie movie successful? Money? Critical Success? And why are Broadway musicals so damn long? Jon and Zay also recap their wild adventures with the homeless residents of NYC and LA.||7/23/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Explicit2. Casting Directors, Donuts, Euro Stepping & Rude Boize // The Rollers Diaries, Vol. 2||Jon grills Isaiah about casting directors and what they actually do for an independent film. We also cover Jon's trip to the Big Apple, Isaiah's near-death experience with an LA cab, their mutual love of donuts and Drake's new album, "Scorpion."||7/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean1. You Want to Talk About Your Movie? Um... Who Are You? // The Rollers Diaries, Vol. 1||A weekly conversational comedy show where Isaiah and Jon talk about life, movies and Zay's progress as he directs his first feature film, ROLLERS, a dramatic comedy about a struggling concert venue.||7/9/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean0. Official "I Guess We'll Do It That Way" Trailer!||“I Guess We’ll Do it That Way” is a weekly conversational comedy show where Isaiah Smallman and Jon Schimpf talk about life, movies and Zay's progress as he directs his first feature film, Rollers, a dramatic comedy about a struggling concert venu||7/8/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
Hilarious AND informative!
I’m glad to have found “I Guess We’ll Do It That Way” - Zay and Jon blend entertaining chit chat and cool information about the film industry that I otherwise would not have known about. Zay provides a unique perspective of the movie making process that makes this podcast well worth the listen and subscription!
Entertaining from Start to Finish!
Zay and Jon keep it real while discussing topics the average human experiences on a daily basis, to the intricacies of film making. Not only is the podcast brought to life by their witty dialogue and vibrant personalities, it opens your eyes to what really goes on behind the scenes of an art form we take for granted. I highly recommend!!!