Interchangeable White Ladies Podcast
By Hope Teague-Bowling & Annie Jansen
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We're launching the Interchangeable White Ladies podcast a show where we discuss education, culture, and local activism. We’re teachers so we have an essential question--How can white women use their privilege to deconstruct white culture, confront their own biases, be better allies, and be less basic? Listen to the Interchangeable White Ladies podcast to learn about all that and more!
||CleanCountering Slow-cooked Misogyny: A Coaching Chat w/Cat Peterson||EQ: How can we understand the slow cooked misogyny of male-dominated professions? Guest: Catherine Peterson, Physics Teacher & Soccer Coach, one of the hosts of Flounders B-Team Podcast and Teachers United “Cat Peterson Award for Courage” The beloved and fabulous Cat Peterson joins us to talk about working in male-dominated spaces: science education and soccer coaching. Cat shares her story about... Growing up in a small town and the importance of female role modelsFalling in love with soccer and science in high school, college, and beyondThe intense demands of coaching and teaching at the same timeThe BS she puts up with as a female coachEquity issues in soccer and other high school sports - who has access and who doesn’t?The overwhelming whiteness in high school coachingGuilty Favesies: Annie: white bread - especially English muffinsHope: KetchupCat: Candy all the time!Do Your Fudging Homework: Annie: Positive Coaching AllianceCat: Find female coaches and follow, retweet them @CM_PetersonHope: Support LHS Girls Soccer by donating from their Amazon wish list||7/13/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanSummer 2-for-One: Beat the Heat AND Nazis||EQ: What’s the best way to beat the summer heat while also handily dismantling racist, sexist, misogynistic hetero-patriarchal white supremacy? We start this episode channel in our inner basic NW white lady with suggestions for how to stay literally cool thi summer. From cold brew to boozy slurpees, find ways to have a little fun and do a little self-care. Go enjoy a glacier while we still have them - i.e. go to a higher altitude and meditate on global warming. We note that it seems that summer time not only emboldens bad outfit choices, it strengthens white supremacists. What’s up with Washington attracting white supremacists? Read more here: National Resurgence: Thousands of Fliars sent to “Patriotic” homesRenton: Puget Sound Anarchists No Sanctuary for NazisBWT, Charlotteville Organizer application for permit to March on WA (Anniversary of Charlotteville protest)Seattle Times on the Atomwoffen Division, a Neo-Nazi group that houses its largest cell in Washington.The Northwest Territorial Imperative Inside Seattle’s white nationalist groups UW Tacoma/other college campuses inundated with fliersHot Tips for beating the Nazis: Educate yourself about white supremacist and white nationalist language and symbology so you can identify it when you see it. Educate others.Address issues in your neighborhood directly (or indirectly, if you’re concerned for your safety or the safety of others).Take action online - share information on social media so that others can access it. Look for dismissive language and know how to respond. For example, if someone says “Nazi is a misnomer. They were a political party and they no longer exist” on Twitter, prepare a snappy comeback, like “the ideology still exists regardless of labels,” or “Delete your account.”Disconnect White Power Tacoma or join Tacoma Against Nazis on FacebookWhat’s Going on With America’s White PeopleDo Your Fudging Homework: Annie: Go read “So You Want to Fight White Supremacy” by Ijeoma Oluo from the Establishment. Preferably while you drink a boozy slurpee on some covered patio while misting yourself with one of those spray bottle fans.Hope: Educate yourself on the rise of white supremacists in the NW and take action---if you need ideas, send us a DM||6/29/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanThat's Pinteresting!||EQ: To what extent has Pinterest influenced the creativity of the modern women/men and specifically educators? When is Pinterest too much or just enough? Guest: Cat Melaunie (Melani), middle school teacher, education activist, and general badass. She’s a Texas native and Washington transplant with a degree in English LA & Writing and minors in psychology and education from McMurry University. She currently works in education in Washington and is a freelance writer, including writing for the Nerdfarmer Podcast. She hosts local trivia, emcees events, and volunteers all the time! Also, she has a guinea pig named Obiwan Guinobi who loves to dress up. Cat’s Story: Her move from Texas to Washington, inspired by her best friend relocating and being RIF’d/laid off from her teaching job (Texas is a “right to work” state) because of her sexual orientation. SHAME BELL.Everything she loves about her college, small hometown, and Tacoma.Full-time subbing in Tacoma and the differences between teaching in Texas and teaching in Washington: being 100% “on” all the time vs. being herself and “blending her worlds.”Accidentally coming out to students. Spoiler: it’s funny and not awful.Saying “no” for a long time and learning how to say “yes” to beautiful new experiences.Being Hispanic and finding out she was a person of color, including her different experiences in Texas and Washington.Watching Starbelly Sneetches with her students to teach them about how to be kind.Segway: Pinterest...your favorite thing or your most favorite thing? For the uninitiated, Pinterest is basically an online corkboard where you collect pictures of things you like from the internet - the pictures are usually connected to a link. Cat describes it as the ancient art of finding great ideas that other great people found before you. It’s possible to scroll through Pinterest for 1,000 hours and not know what happened. Pinterest board numbers: Hope stopped counting at 30, Cat has 30, and Annie has...102. Hope has cleverly named boards about teaching, working out, and books worth reading. Cat has a mermaid board, treats board, hair board, and two for Harry Potter - memes and HP stuff. Plus - Star Wars wedding. Annie has so many that it’s hard to pick a fave.Pinterest is renowned for its massive collection of recipes. Hope is doing the keto thing, Annie is vegan, so we decided to try and find something that everyone could eat. Annie made these. They’re not a total fail! Hope participated in the adventure, too - coconut milk chocolate mousse. It wouldn’t blend but it was delicious.Bad advice from Pinterest! Flowery background with “bloom where you’re planted” - worse than “what doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”Rustic junk like beach trash with inspirational quotes.The whole fitspo situation. You used to see a lot of “thinspo” or “thinspiration,” now its “fitspo” or “fitness inspiration,” which basically glorifies abs and squat challenges. Plus the before and after weight loss pictures.Not exactly bad advice, but you can’t go on Pinterest without seeing white women all over the place using Starbucks cups as accessories. The Starbucks cup is the new tiny dog in a purse.CAT WROTE US SOME POEMS ABOUT PINTEREST, including a limerick and a poem on the spot. It was impressive.Men also enjoy Pinterest, especially posting pictures of their beards and beards they think are awesome.While it’s a social media platform, Pinterest is also a consumer trap.Guilty-Favesies: These are things that you make feel “guilty” about but are secretly or not so secretly favesies.Annie: looking for government jobs so she can be like Leslie Knope.Cat: comic books - but not so guilty. Eating fried chicken and drinking cheap beer in a bubble bath. Netflix (laptop on the toilet - not over the tub. Don’t electrocute y||6/15/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanShare the Stage, Hand over the Mic: An Interview with the National Teacher of the Year||EQ: Who is the NTOY and what’s her deal? Guest: Mandy Manning, 2018 WA STOY and National Teacher of the Year Mandy Manning teaches English and math to refugee and immigrant students in the Newcomer Center at Ferris High School in Spokane, Washington, where she is her students' first teacher once they arrive in the U.S. This bio is lit Mandy answers weird questions such as “what’s your favorite degree?” to “how does being NSTOY provide you a platform for your advocacy work or to speak about social justice, equity, or more serious things?” and “how do you see yourself as a white lady doing this work with mostly black and brown students--how to keep the ‘White Savior’ complex in check?” Mandy elaborates on why it's important to think at a systems level and why our schools need to meet the needs of the specific community they serve. Interesting links to keep your basicness at bay: WA State Teacher of Year ProgramNational Teacher of the Year ProgramSpokane Public Schools Newcomer CenterThe Japan Exchange Teaching (JET) Program“Make the Most of Your World” Peace Corps“25 Things You Probably Didn’t Know about Armenia”Trump Told to Take Care with His Language on ImmigrantsTeacher of the Year Delivers letters from Refugee & Immigrant students to President TrumpGuilty Favsies: Hope--Flair pens or fancy gel pens from Japan, Korea, or Hong Kong (Ketchup, Silver Swan Soy Sauce; mangoes)Annie: Protein PowderMandy: Sneaking out for coffee during planning periodDo Your Fudging Homework: Mandy: leave your house; go meet your neighbor--self awareness to become more culturally competent; what impacting your view; get knowledgeHope: Born a Crime by Trevor NoahPlease consider supporting the podcast by joining Channel 253 as a member.||6/1/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanWe Just Want to Build A Wall and Make Seattle Pay for It||EQ: How do we better understand the relationship between race, class, and real estate, and why does that matter? Guest: Marguerite Martin, curator of the Move to Tacoma movement and host of the Move to Tacoma Podcast, the Pod Auntie and a founding pod host on Channel 253 (the spry, young matriarch of the network). Marguerite shares her story: Her love for Tacoma and her early days downtown (what used to be the cheapest neighborhood!).Her start in real estate in the last boom market, circa 2005, and occupational survival in the downturn.The launch of the Move to Tacoma movement (website and, later, the podcast) as a resource for people relocating to the area.Feelings about her career - the thrill and terror of entrepreneurship. You can be creative and be yourself, workaholic!Why lots of people get their real estate license - it’s not too hard to meet the requirements, but it IS hard to build a career (the test has nothing to do with the actual work of selling real estate). You may not get the support you need as a newbie.Making her way - from the dream of being the Queen of Spanaway Real Estate to carving out a niche, first as a condo specialist, then as a downtown realtor, and later as a buyer’s agent. PLUS! The first prototype of Move to Tacoma - Get Real Tacoma.The changes in the local market, especially skyrocketing prices and the lack of affordable housing options.The market now: buyers have to give up more. Buyers are currently at a tremendous disadvantage, especially low-income folks. Those with a lack of intergenerational and historical wealth, especially people of color in Tacoma, don’t have access to the resources they need. Issues with the lack of diversity in the profession--the median age of realtors is 60 and 87% of agents are white. The field is treated by many real estate professionals as a meritocracy. Spoiler alert: it’s not. (Dis)trust and implicit bias fuel ageism, sexism, and racism in the business. Being “woke” in real estate is - maybe - impossible because systems of capitalism are inherently exploitative.Marguerite’s favorite Move to Tacoma Podcast Episode “The Tacoma Dating Scene”Guilty Favsies: Annie & Hope: Target, Target, and more Target!!Marguerite: John Mayer and YoungerDo Your Fudging Homework: Annie: Go watch a video called “Housing Segregation in Everything” from NPR’s Code Switch Podcast. Hope: To understand our country’s history of housing segregation and why things are they way they are today, go read Nicole Hannah Jones: Living Apart and Nerd Farm Reads book “Evicted:Poverty & Profit in the American City” by Mathew Desmond (Ep 30 & Pop the Trunk Addendum)Marguerite: Adams Ruins Everything “The Disturbing History of the Suburbs” and Race Power of Illusion.||5/18/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanTwice As Much To Be Considered Half As Good||EQ: How are women’s athletics treated differently than men’s athletics and why does the difference matter? Guest: Maya Smorodinsky, English Professor at Shoreline Community College and Ultimate Frisbee aficionado. From basic rules to the difference between "mixed" and not-mixed leagues, Maya breaks down the mysterious world of ultimate frisbee. Most importantly, we talk about the relationship between the sport and social justice including discussing the privilege of male athletes in creating space for sports like ultimate (pro leagues), unconscious bias on the field (you can’t get better if no one passes to you), and how all-women leagues develop leadership. Furthermore, we realize that Ultimate is a metaphor for education! Some things to read: Ultimate for DummiesEquity in Mixed UltimateAge Up in South Seattle: athletic and leadership empowerment for youth of colorThe Sky is Red documentary; Follow on Twitter @skyisredfilmUpwind UltimateGuilty-favesies: Annie: frozen packaged food! Terrible for the environment, but so convenient.Hope: Vampire Diaries. Irresistible TRASH.Maya: consumerism. Also, television!Do Your Fudging Homework: Hope: go look up some of the great resources and information Maya brought to share.Annie: “We Must Change the Narrative Around Women’s Sports” by Sally Bergeson at Outdoor Magazine.Maya: donate to Age Up!||5/6/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanSave Your Hemorrhoids Story For Facebook||EQ: How are disability justice and racial justice intertwined? Guest: Carrie Basas, Director at WA Education Ombuds; Former Employment & Civil Rights Lawyer; Harvard Law School Hope first met Carrie at the Seattle Times Ignite Event when she presented “Short Bus to Social Justice.” In this (delightfully) looooong conversation we discuss what it means to “pass,” what Crip Hop is and who Wheelchair Sports Camp is. Learn about Lawrence Carter Long and how the term “disabled” is being reclaimed. Be less basic about the disabled community and and how disability rights intersect with racial equity issues by checking out the following: #DisabilityTooWhite#CripplePunk Instagram#365dayswithdisabilityStella Young Ted Talk “I’m Not your Inspiration” DisCrit: Disability Study and Critical Race Theory in EducationAlice Wong Disability Visibility ProjectLydia Brown: Autistic HoyaNational Coalition for Latinx with DisabilitiesAsians and Pacific Islanders with Disabilities of CaliforniaNational Study on the Experiences of Natives with DisabilitiesVilissa Thompson: Ramp Your VoiceWe started a new segment “Guilty-Favesies”! Hope: microwaveable popcorn. Covered in weird plastic and waste, but SO delicious and convenient!Annie: my commute. It’s a contemplative, quiet time in the car.Carrie: dysfunctional family shows and romantic comedies. See: “Love” and “Grace and Frankie” on Netflix.Do Your Fudging Homework: Hope: Go read Carrie’s article Disabilities So White and Let’s Play Ableism BingoCarrie: October Disabilities MonthAnnie: My AP Government students just learned about the Americans with Disabilities Act, or ADA. If you care about civil rights, which I know you do, go read up on the law and make sure you understand it. The ADA prohibits discrimination against individuals in all areas of public life, including employment, education, transit, and anywhere else open to the public.||4/20/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanWhite Ladies, White Lies||Our EQ: Are lies ever really victimless and why do lies from white women have a disproportionate impact? Lying is a familiar activity to everyone. Whether it’s little - I swear I didn’t take the last Girl Scout cookie, must have been you - or big - I swear I’m not cheating on you, we’re just friends - lies have consequences. This is especially true for White women who are believed innocent more than anyone else. White lady lies or hwhite lies have more detrimental consequences because of systemic racism and white supremacy. Urban Dictionary defines a white lie as “lies that white people have told others to make their self look righteous” Famous white ladies who lied: Tanya Harding---see documentary I, TonyaRachel Dolezal--The Rachel Divide documentary April 27 on Netflix!!!Ijeoma Oluo article from the Stranger April 2017 called The Heart of WhitenessHope Hicks Hilary Clinton SuperpredatorsOne of the worse offenders is Carolyn Bryant Donham who finally admits her claims against Emmett Till were falseTimeless or Terrible: Travel size anythingTeen gossip shows - Gossip Girl, Pretty Little LiarsSoft Pretzels & CheeseThe wrong kinds of White peopleDo Your Fudging Homework: Hope: stop telling white lies; Being Black in a World Where White Lies Matter Annie: don’t let people in power get away with their lies. Hold them accountable!||4/4/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanPagan Zines Save the World||Our EQ: How do white people appropriate religious traditions? How does religion shape social justice and why keeping an eye on American pagans matters? We’re super excited about long time listener and friend Mandy Paradise joining us to explain Paganism in the NW, including how it fits into our current work of understanding and confronting white nationalism and supremacy. Find Mandy on Instagram or through her website The Anchor and the Star and check out her zines, including “Witches, Pagans, and Cultural Appropriation.” Other episode highlights: Some paganism/witchy basics for non-pagans--how do you bring folks together for ritual in a meaningful way?Free Witch Camp, The Crystal Cove, and Cresecent Moon GiftsThe idea of white sanctuary in some pagan traditions and why it’s important to be aware of it. Check out this article Far Right & NeoPaganism Cultural appropriation of religious traditions (think the shelf of concrete Buddhas at Ross) and “Columbussing”Read “On the Importance of Intersectional Witchcraft”Timeless or Terrible: Dyeing your hair a warmer colorFace Swap Do Your Fudging Homework: Mandy: Read "On Tyranny" by Timothy SnyderAnnie: Watch “Kill the K Cup” on YouTube and be nicer to the planet.Hope: Go check out Mandy’s Instagram or website The Anchor and the Star.||3/25/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanGet Your Fear Under Control, (White) America||Our EQ: How are many modern social problems fueled by fear and how can we use the emotion to our advantage to make social change? We dig into the topic of fear sharing some of their deepest fears, discussing mass shootings, how arming teachers is asinine (that gun $$ tho), and why white people need to get over themselves--specifically when it comes to films such as Black Panther. Since recording, Black Panther has crossed over $1 BILLION mark! Mentioned in this episode: The Psychology of FearMass Shootings & Mental IllnessAre White People Being Assaulted at Showings of Black PantherBlack Super Heroes Matter The Bechdel TestThe Race Bechdel TestBlack Excellence is an All-Time HighTimeless or Terrible: IphonesDrakeBonfires Do Your Fudging Homework: Annie: Go read “Why we’re so easily manipulated by political appeals to fear” by David Ropeik. It offers some interesting connections to today’s conversation about fear.Hope: 1) Go watch Black Panther. 2) Try to do something to combat your fears. 3) Go watch Black Panther.||3/10/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanTreat Others With Dignity Even if You Disagree||Guest: Lisa Keating from My Purple Umbrella This amazing women tells the story of how she went from being a massage therapist with a gift for crafting to becoming an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights in WA state through her nonprofit, My Purple Umbrella. Ideas referenced in the show: HB2661 Anderson- Murray Background HIB details; HIB Resources from Tacoma Public SchoolsTeaching conflict management for kids Pre-K through 5th grade--Kelso’s ChoiceSCDM - each school building has a committee that works on school-wide initiatives. It’s a great place to start if you want to make positive change happen in local schools.Language changes over time, be patient with the process and also have grace for yourself and others Timeless or Terrible: Tanning Do Your Fudging Homework: Lisa: Check out My Purple Umbrella’s book club - the Queerest Book Club Ever - at King’s Books on the first Monday of each month. The book for March is Queer: a Graphic History by Meg-John Barker.Annie: One Teacher in Ten, edited by Kevin Jennings and 50 Queers Who Changed the World by Daniel Jones.Hope: YA books! Simon vs. the Homosapien Agenda by Becky Albertalli, None of the Above by I.W. Gregorio and If I Was Your Girl by Meredith Russo.||2/22/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanThe Environment Won’t Save Itself||Our EQ: How is the fight for environmental justice influenced by race and class? Guests: Krystal Kyer & Melissa Malott Environmental advocates Krystal (Puyallup Watershed Initiative) and Melissa (Citizens for a Healthy Bay) come by to talk about environmental justice, the disproportionate effects of industrial pollution on poor communities, and the environmental organizations working to keep Tacoma healthy. Other topics include: The history of the environmental movement, including the creation of the National Parks by the white leisure classThe gatekeeping of the environmental movement by electric-car driving NIMBYs and how to take it backThe importance of urban trees!Concerns about the Trump administration’s unwillingness and/or inability to understand science.Find an environmental topic that you’re passionate about and work on it! You’ll only stick with it if you’re heart’s in it.Other things referenced in the episode:Tacoma Roots Environmental Justice ForumBill McKibben The End of Nature350.orgEnviroNews Listserv Greater Tacoma Community Foundation Blog** Since this recording, Kenny Coble was hired by Citizens for a Healthy Bay's new Environmental Justice Program Do Your Fudging Homework: Krystal: See Hope’s note about Green Drinks Tacoma!Melissa: Buy reused and reusable stuff - don’t buy new stuff! We send so much to landfills and you shouldn’t need to wear fancy organic pants to be an environmentalist.Annie: The EPA’s “Environmental Justice." PLUS Google “Zero Waste.”Hope: Check out Green Drinks Tacoma - the first Thursday of the month.||2/8/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanYou Don't Have to Sell Wrapping Paper||Our EQ: How do we build a sense of community and family across economic, racial, and cultural differences? REMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIX Guests: Sheree Cooks and Megan Clark Former (beloved) guests Sheree and Megan return for a chat about the PTA, Tacoma’s Whole Child Initiative, social emotional (aka SEL, aka “soash emoash”) learning, and the heart that goes into our school-based services such as food and clothing banks. Other topics include: ACES: take the survey hereDon't forget intersectionality that offsets or buffers some trauma!The need for cultural awareness and understanding in official and unofficial school communication.The importance of volunteering for charitable organizations and neighborhood schools year-round, not only at the holidays.Megan’s plans for world domination via non-profit work.Important deets about the PTA: it’s America’s largest student advocacy group. Washington State PTARead their 2018 Leg Agenda Timeless or Terrible: Baby Industrial ComplexFlat BreadDo Your Fudging Homework Sheree: Read "Little Fires Everywhere" by Celeste Ng. Join your local "buy nothing" group and bless someoneMegan: Reach out to others - parents, teachers, schools - and get involved!Annie: “Dads in the PTA” by Lisa Belkin||1/24/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanMore than a Flip Book: Interracial Relationships||Our EQ: How can we as white people be more supportive of and less basic about our friends in interracial relationships? Guests: Anne Jones and Jamika Scott The conversation meanders from what we love about Tacoma to joys and challenges of being in an interracial relationship to concerns about introducing significant others to family and unique experiences raising kids. It takes effort to get out of our bubbles and expose ourselves to others who are different from us. As Anne says, “If it’s not in your day-to-day, make a concerted effort” to interact with people who are different than you. Things are moving, even if slowly. Other topics include: The peculiarities of Montana (the “You Do You” state).Some challenges of raising interracial childrenIntent vs. Impact of our words and actionsSupporting loved ones even when you can’t fully empathize with their experienceDo Your Fudging Homework Anne: Deliberately expose your kids to diverse experiences and raise them to be kind.Jemika: Watch Save the Last Dance and educate yourself about issues affecting POCs and not expecting them to educate you.Annie: go on Oyez.org and read all about Loving vs. Virginia, the landmark Supreme Court case that ended state bans on interracial marriage and relationships.Hope: Aziz Ansari’s Modern Romance, The Lovings: an Intimate Portrait, Multiracial Media, and #WhiteBae .||1/11/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean2017 EOY Review: Bright Embers of Hope in a White-Hot Dump Fire||Our EQ: What the hell happened this year and how do we make sense of it? From hijab wearing Barbies and the election of the first openly transgender legislator (Danica Roem) to Australia legalizing gay marriage via national referendum and Bey slayin in her maternity pictures, 2017 had many hopeful moments. We recall some of our pop culture highlights of the year. In another segment called “Where Are They Now?” we catch up on the latest from women of the Alt Right and Roy Moore, the creep who won’t go away. Mentioned in the episode: At a moment when white supremacy is echoed in the “America first” slogan of President Trump, Beyoncé dislodges “white” from its central place in religious symbolism with her maternity pics.The White mediocrity of Taylor Swift continues to be as inspiring as Miracle Whip on Wonderbread AND she used her (very powerful) platform to take her sexual abuser to court and promote #MeToo Time Person of the Year: Silence Breakers Notable Movies: Moonlight Wins Best Picture, Kumail Nanjiani’s The Big Sick, Jordan Peele’s Get Out Notable Music: Kendrick Lamar’s “Damn: Collectors Edition”, Drake’s Passionfruit has special significance, DJ Khaled/Bieber/Migos/Chance/Lil Wayne “I’m the One”, Luis Fonsi/Daddy Yankee “Despacito” and the Biology Parody, Macklemore had a new album with good “flow” (as the kids say), even if some of the lyrics are extreme slant rhymes or make literally no sense (he’s since sold out two shows at Key Arena) Women of the Alt Right Ladies Night: Meet the Women of the Alt Right Umm….Mary Elizabeth Tyler is highly problematic Alt Right Women Asked to Choose Submission To Grow Political Movement “Alt Right Women Are Upset that Alt Right Men are treating them terribly” Alt Right Women Discover Bitter Racists are Also Sexist Jerks Women of the Alt Right Are Shocked and Hurt that Men in the Movement are Sexist Roy Moore & Rebecca Corry Louis CK has been SCRUBBED from Disney’s reruns of Gravity Falls. Like they voiced over his voice overs. Since our episode the list of accused sexual abusers got longer: 25 new ones! Garrison Keillor, Tavis Smiley, and Morgan Spurlock (who outed himself!) Timeless or Terrible: Danskos Dressing up your pet Do Your Fudging Homework: Annie: in 2018, if you do nothing else, protect democracy. https://www.benjerry.com/whats-new/2016/advocates-for-democracyHope: Go Read On Tyranny by Timothy Snyder||12/28/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanFilet Mignon and A Bottle of Dom||Our EQ is: What role do race and class play in the food industry? We’re joined by Corey Evans, culinary arts teacher at Lincoln High School and LHS alum. He tells us about his adventures and misadventures in the food industry, especially high-end dining, from the eastside of Tacoma to the eastern seaboard. He helps us dig into some serious issues, including the politics, the racial divide, and the pecking order in restaurant kitchens, the importance of truffle oil, and great places to dine in Tacoma (spoiler: Tibbitts at Fernhill). Other topics of discussion: Martha's vineyard (we had to Google which Martha - named after Bartholomew Gosnald’s daughter and/or mother in-law)Veal demi glaceGluten-free diets (not for Celiac’s) can do more harm than goodWhy a palmful is not a real measuring sizeWhy Waiters Drink. And Why It MattersAnnie claimed there are recipes that are both vegan and gluten free. Evidence: Life-affirming Warm Nacho Dip (scroll past the book review for the recipe)Lotsa stuff from Vegan RichaAll the stuff on this list from PETATimeless or Terrible: Stinky Cheeses Tatchos (tater tot nachos) Do Your Fudging Homework: Corey: don’t ask for substitutions on the menu unless you really really have to. Annie: Eat at this amazing vegan cafe Quickie Too! Hope: The Food Lab by J Kenji Lopez-Alt Update: Since recording this episode Hope has subscribed to Blue Apron and @NerdFarmer is obsessed. If you decide to do it, use Hope or Corey as a referral. K thanx!||12/17/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||Clean#MeToo, Fake Apologies, and Supporting Survivors||Our EQ is: How does rape culture hurt everyone and how is the political climate shifting to support survivors and hold abusers accountable? We begin by defining the term rape culture and process our way through the swamp that is this “trend” in white men being taken to task for the sins they've committed--abusing their power to sexual harass, assault and rape. How does rape culture hurt women? Other men? What’s the impact on children? How are celebrities protected by their status? HOW and WHY is the present political climate causing those protections for the rich and famous to break down? In this episode, we specifically focus on Roy Moore and Louis C.K., including their denials and half-baked apologies (and apologists). Worth reading on the issue: The Worst Roy Moore Take Ever Has ArrivedThe New York Times List of Men Engaged in Sexual Misconduct“Louis C.K.’s Powerful Army of Celebrity Enablers”Sarah SilvermanLena Dunham’s weird hypocrisy (she’s since apologized for being a weird hypocrite)Huffington Post: Why Some Women Smile at Men Who Sexually Harass ThemThe #MeToo Moment'Me Too: is Harder to Say Than You ThinkWhat it boils down to is this: Fight all the elements of rape culture in our society. Don't be a creep.Stop telling women what they could've/should've done in dangerous situations.Call out your Bros when they are rape-y.Believe victims of assault. Continuing down the thread of White male mediocrity--Blake Shelton is certainly not the sexiest man in the world. How about Mahershala Ali? Or the Greek Men’s Water polo team Timeless or Terrible meets Do Your Fudging Homework: Teribless Landscape Quotes White Lady Vision Quest||11/30/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanFoster Care 101: A Primer for Teachers and Other Humans||Our EQ this week: How does being an interchangeable white lady impact your work in foster care? Special Guests: Skylar Cole from Treehouse & Brianna Richardson a foster-to-adopt parent Our guests help us understand many of the dynamics of the foster care system, including the fact that it is inherently reactive. We discuss how people of color have contact with CPS, DSHS, and foster care more often than white people. This disproportionality affects the youth we teach in a big way. The assumptions made by those in the system are normed to white middle class values (middle class families are also much less likely to be investigated by CPS). Black families are two times and Native American families are three times as likely to be investigated as white families. Children of color are also less likely to be reunited with their families. We discuss a variety of related topics like dependency hearings, restrictions on foster parents, compensation and conditions for foster families, the serious lack of foster homes, and the subjectivity unintentionally built in to what is meant to be an objective system (which also mirrors systemic racism). Do Your Fudging Homework: Skylar: Everyone needs to watch this video "What Mandated Reporters Need to Know about Racial Disproportionality in the Child Welfare System"Brianna: Read "Twenty Things Adopted Kids Wish Their Adoptive Parents Parents Knew" and check out the website Fostering Together for resources. Annie/Hope: Go read up on Washington’s recent consolidation of Child Protective Services into the new Department of Children, Youth, and Families. Reflect on the fact that this department now also houses the juvenile justice system and what that means for youth. Go to the community liaison or Treehouse representative at your neighborhood school and see what kind of support foster youth need right now. Take action to help those kids! If you have the capacity, consider how you might contribute mentorship or a safe, loving home for foster youth. Find on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast Follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||11/16/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 6: Passive Aggressive Wypipo||Our EQ this week: How can white women use their privilege to disrupt the culture of passive aggressive behavior and whitesplaining/mansplaining that emerge in many professional workplaces? Episode Disclaimer: If any of the stories or examples in this episode seem familiar, it’s purely accidental, coincidental, and unintentional. Join Hope and Annie as they discuss the ways in which white women engage in passive aggressive communication. These IWLs rehash an amazing video by MTV's Decoded White People Whitesplain Whitesplaining and Hope learns a new word-- hepeating. As you listen, you'll certainly think of your own experiences with passive aggressive forms of workplace communication. Pop Critical Theory: Today’s pop critical theory comes from the delightful intersection of sociology and linguistics - word blending. White women love word blends as much as your one quirky uncle loves puns. The IWL’s favorite word blend is obviously brunch - that’s breakfast plus lunch, natch - but we won’t wax poetic about waffles on THIS episode. The practice of word blending has brought us such gems as mansplaining and whitesplaining, two terms that are invaluable in our quest to explain the nuance of interpersonal and professional communication in the workplace. We have to give credit where credit is due - Rebecca Solnit coined “mansplaining” in her seminal essay-turned-book, Men Explain Things to Me. Timeless or Terrible: Trunk Shows Stella & DotTupperwareTea LightCabi (buy from our friend!)Trades of Hope (buy from our friend!)10,000 Villages Do Your Fudging Homework: Hope: Tom Rademacher’s post Can We Talk About How Many White Women There Are in Schools and his interview with me.Annie: Read up on “cross-cultural communication” theory. Make and implement a plan for your own cross cultural communication (without tone policing!) Find on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast Follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||11/3/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 5: Don't Send a Letter, Have a Conversation||Today’s essential question is: how do we build a sense of community and family across economic, racial, and cultural differences? Special Guests: Sheree Cooks, Public Education Family Engagement Advocate and Community Member; Received the 2017 Gold Star Community Partnership Award from TPS Megan Clark, Family Engagement Liaison We cram so much into this 50 minute episode, it’s like a teacher’s bag(s) on a Friday - bursting at the seams. What’s the difference between parent involvement and parent engagement? How do schools build (authentic) cross-cultural bridges? Why does it matter that we use language like “our school” rather than “my school” when we talk with parents and families? How do you balance your passion for your work and necessary self-care? How do we address the well-intended, color-blind teacher that raise our children to be empowered to fight systemic racism and color-blindness? Sheree and Megan break it down with painful, heartfelt, and sometimes hilarious anecdotes. These experiences are shared from their lens as parents. They will be back on the show to share more stories from the perspective of community partners, highlighting the successes and challenges of engaging community and families. Do Your Fudging Homework: Megan: Get involved in your community. Talk about the work that is being done and connect organizations with those who are passionate about the work.Sheree: Give where you can. Support programs that encourage community engagement. Participate in community events such as the Eastside Nature Walk on October 28.Annie: Read the article “Family Engagement: Resource Roundup” from EdutopiaLike us on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast Follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||10/19/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 4: Shame Bell Your Gender Norms & Pumpkin Spice Yogurt||Our essential question is: what is gender and why does it matter? Hope & Annie continue their conversation about gender norms. What happens when we reject them? How do we work on making our relationships more equitable? The IWLs hit on double standards for girls in school dress codes, how LGBT folks disrupt gender norms by sharing household chores, and the disproportionate amount of emotional labor female-identified folks tend to do in the workplace. Today’s pop critical theory is deviance. Deviance is behavior that violates social norms. Deviance actually serves a really important purpose - if you deviate from the norm, it's often because you're figuring out your identity and finding a sub-group to belong to, which can be really empowering. It can also be alienating, since you're separated from the group that sets the norms. How are we rewarded when we deviate? How are we punished? How many people need to be deviant before it becomes the norm? Deep thoughts! References: Judy Brady “I Want a Wife” Fa’afafine Samoan Third Gender Beauty Pageant This School Just Adopted A Body-Positive Dress Code Why Women Are Tired: The Price of Unpaid Emotional Labor Audre Lorde’s essay The Master’s Tools will Never Dismantle the Master’s House This episode we forgo our usual timeless or terrible conversation and opt for a Pumpkin Spiced themed segment where we actually taste PS themed foods from our favorite white lady store, Target. From poptarts to gum, listen to our lip-smacking reviews. Spoiler: This is nasty Do Your Fudging Homework: Hope: Samoan Third Gender--Read about it! Samoan Boys Raised As Girls The Feed/SBS VicelandAnnie: “Environmental Racism is the New Jim Crow” published by the Atlantic on June 5, 2017.||10/5/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 3: Seeing, Being Seen, and the Panopticon of Life||Our essential question is: What does race, gender, and class have to do with seeing and being seen? This episode Annie & Hope are joined by two specials guests Tacoma personality Bernadette Ray and business woman Soneya Lund of the Saol Salon in Yakima. From racial coming outs to deconstructing white beauty standards, the ladies ring the “Shame Bell” on ridiculous standards that society tries to hold us to. These honesty, raw, and personal stories of the womanhood will touch you. Today’s pop critical theory is the metaphor of the panopticon, originally conceived by white dude political philosopher Jeremy Bentham and his brother. It’s basically a round prison so the guards in the middle can see prisoners, but the prisoners don’t know when OR IF they’re being seen. Remember - it’s a metaphor! But it was once built as an actual prison! What’s this have to do with us as women? As white, black, and brown women? How do (sometimes insidious) standards of beauty and conduct keep us in check? Timeless or Terrible: Bottomless Mimosas/BrunchIkea Furniture ValetMinimalism on PinterestDo Your Fudging Homework: Hope: 2 Dope Queens comprised of Phoebe Robinson who wrote You Can’t Touch My Hair and Jessica William who has a new show The Incredible Jessica James on NetflixAnnie: Go Google image search Robert K. Merton’s “deviance typology,” then go down the sociology of deviant behavior rabbit hole on Wikipedia. Spend a little time thinking about your own deviance #winkyfaceBernadette: give an authentic compliment to a woman of colorSoneya: Go read Girl in Translation by Jean KwokFind on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast or follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||9/21/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 2: Fish Crackers and White Supremacy||Our essential question is: What is white privilege and why do we need to talk about it? Defining privilege as unearned advantage or right based on group status, Annie and Hope breakdown examples of white privilege from shopping without receipts to traveling without being stopped. Just because you can’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not there! Privilege is systemic. IWLs talk briefly about gendered and whitewashed toys, including where you can find some rad Barbies with afros (Etsy). BONUS TRACK: other diverse Barbie-like dolls, because representation matters. IWLs experiment with a new segment in the show called “pop critical theory.” Today's segment focuses on intersectionality. Intersectionality originally comes from feminist sociological theory and the work of Kimberle’ Crenshaw, who says that discrimination or criminal behavior against women can be targeted or intensified based on that woman’s race. So intersectionality has the power to compound your oppression, BUT! It can also be a source of personal power, because it gives you the ability to stratify different groups, AKA be in more than one group at a time. Articles mentioned in the episode that you should go read RIGHT NOW: Harper's Sept 2017 Issue The Rise of the Valkyries NPR’s “The Women Behind the Alt Right”Lipstick Fascism Timeless or Terrible: Annie and Hope weigh in on the staples of interchangeable white women everywhere. Today’s topics--boot cuffs and the obsession with talking about generations (leave those millennials and their avocado toast alone). Do Your Fudging Homework: Go read Tim Snyder’s book, “On Tyranny.” It’s like pamphlet-small, no excuses. Go Google pictures of the Panopticon so you can get an idea of what it looks like. Go read up on the idea of the invisible or imaginary audience. Take notes and prepare to discuss. Find on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast Follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||8/31/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 1: An Introduction||This episode of IWL is brought to you by cardigans, the uniform staple of interchangeable white ladies everywhere. Today’s essential question: what’s an IWL and why does it matter? Annie & Hope discuss where the term “Interchangeable White Lady” comes from and what the challenge is for white female teachers working with diverse students. The term original defined as “smiling, 20-something in her Target cardigan standing in front of a Smartboard” in Hope’s blog post The Interchangeable White Lady: An Introduction. In actuality, this label refers to the way students view their teachers. The concept was created in the context that 80% of educators are white women, teaching students of color (stats vary depending on source). Student perception is key. Relationships are crucial. White female teachers need to consider how students perceive them and accept the challenge this creates. It's a challenge to: To teach in a culturally responsive way based on the students before us.To view our instruction through the lens of traditionally marginalized youth.To distinguish ourselves as allies in the fight against institutional racism as we equip young men and women through the power of education.Annie explains her own reactions to being an IWL. Paraphrases Roxanne Gay’s idea that you don’t need to apologize for being born white or wealthy, but to acknowledge how those traits are favored in society and how they make your movement through life different and often easier (and how you should use that privilege to help others move more easily). Annie also shared her deep, fangirl-like appreciation for the illustrious and fabulous Mary Yu. Timeless or Terrible: Annie and Hope weigh in on the staples of interchangeable white women everywhere. Today’s topics: Ugg Boots LuLaroe Leggings Kombucha w/ the mother Do Your Fudging Homework: Go read Jeff Raikes’ article “Color-Blindness Is a Cop-Out” and “Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack” by Peggy McIntosh. Find us on Facebook www.facebook.com/IWLpodcast or follow us on on Twitter @IWL_Podcast||8/10/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 0: Introducing Interchangeable White Ladies||Deconstructing privilege. Confronting biases. Working on being less basic.||7/20/2017||Free||View in iTunes|
As a fellow teacher and interchangeable white lady myself, this podcast vocalizes a lot of my concerns and the challenges I face in my work. Thank you for putting this out there!
Brilliant & hilarious
Love listening to this pod! The commentary always offers brilliant insights delivered with humor and from a place of true authenticity.
Hope and Annie are having the conversations we need to have.