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Layout is a weekly podcast about design, technology, programming and everything else.

Customer Reviews

Such a solid show

Boom I am #1. (couldn’t help it.)

Really enjoy listening to this show on my way into work. The content and topics are always meaningful and very down to earth. Kevin and Raf have a unique and human way of discussing and reviewing a tool or topic. Keep crushing it.



If you want an inside scoop on what’s going on the design industry (lot’s of drama) then Layout is for you!
Fun topics and nice audio quality.

Like a conversation over coffee.

Two guys that love design click "record" and have a conversation. It's not full of ego, it's also not lacking in passion -- they manage to talk like real people, discussing real problems that designers and designerds alike face every day. Stuff like workflow, research, process, the new Uber identity or a grand new interface concept for computers. And of course, tools. It's the day to day stuff.

And if you're like me, it's the stuff you want to get into a 2 hour long conversation about with another designer over coffee, but probably don't have the time, or maybe don't have a friend that's quite as nerdy about quite the same things as you. They *are* that conversation, and now you get to listen to it on your commute to work, and listen again at the gym so you can let everything sink in.

I've listened to every episode, and a few of them several times over, because these dudes have things to say that I want to hear. They are bright, thoughtful, modest, and the perfect balance between opinionated and unbiased, always considering as many angles as they can.

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