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The Argument

By The New York Times Opinion

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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

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Named after my favorite record by Fugazi (I kid, I kid), this podcast is important work.

Ross Douthat Smugness and Lies More Annoying in Person than in Print

Enjoy and support more detailed discussions of current event so eagerly aniticipated The Argument. However, Ross Douthat's smugness and smarmy disingenuousness makes the podcast difficult to listen to. His makes unsubstantiated assertions and pronouncements as if they are hard fact and no one does anything to contradict him. His tired trope that "Trump's words are not reflected in his actual policies" get dragged out for every show. On the latest episode he claimes that Trump's economic populist rhetoric has not been reflected in actual economic polcies, conveniently ignoring blatant economoc populism with Trumps tarriffs, Carrier bailout, carve back of EPA regulations to benefit coal miners, reduction of Bears Ears and other national parks (only liberals hike), opening up public land to drilling etc etc. Aren’t those actual policies? Why does Ross criticize NYC paying for 25000 Amazon jobs but silent on Trump/Pence buying 400 Carier jobs? Why does the NYTimes waste time and print space for this nonsense in some lame attempt to give time to both sides. Cant they find a thoughtful and serious columnist who can articulate a conservative position without resorting to unproven statements and smug self righteuousness. At least Ross leaves all his 5 cent vocablulary words for his column and doesnt spout them on air.

I’ve been waiting for this!

Finally, I can “hear” the argument for “the other side.” Without losing friends ... well-done. I can disagree without the emotional exasperation of hearing a person I care about say those words. It’s a reasonable conversation and thus helps me understand.

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