The Cyberlaw Podcast
By Steptoe & Johnson LLP
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A weekly podcast offering an opinionated roundup of the latest events in technology, security, privacy, and government and an in-depth interview of technology and policy newsmakers. Host Stewart Baker and regulars Michael Vatis, Alan Cohn, and Maury Shenk share their views - and not those of the firm.
||CleanEpisode 246: Russia's Successful Search for Deterrence on the Cheap||In our 246th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined for the News Roundup by Maury Shenk, Matthew Heiman, and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Russian deterrence in the 21st century.; Google gets favorable lean from advisor to European Court of Justice on “right to be forgotten.”; This Week in Drone Law: The UK is ramping up police powers following the Gatwick Drone Incident.; Fourth Circuit rules politicians cannot block constituents on Facebook based on their political viewpoints.; The Hal Martin Saga gets weirder: Kaspersky Lab involved.; Phone locations for a fee.; Happy New Year from Big Brother: Vietnam threatens Facebook for allowing prohibited posts, failing to localize data.; The cybersecurity misadventures of “El Chapo.”; The Great Firewall returns? The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||1/13/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 245: "Pay no attention to the guns, the flashbang, and the handcuffs. You’re free to go at any time."||In our 245th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined for the News Roundup by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and David Kris (@DavidKris) to discuss: Silicon Valley says – what else? – that export controls will hurt AI development.; The Department of Justice indicted members of APT10. Jack Goldsmith and Robert Williams are critical of the name-and-shame strategy generally.; Hacks of the month: Newspapers were disrupted by a cyber incident.; A hacker dumped data on Angela Merkel and a number of other German politicians.; Hackers stole personal information of North Koreans in South Korea.; The US and China are in a quantum arms race that may transform warfare.; A judge issued a mixed bag of rulings on three motions to suppress in Hal Martin’s NSA theft case, which just gets weirder and weirder.; Today’s forecast: Windy with a probability of litigation. Los Angeles sues Weather Company for collecting and sharing location information in an app.; Standing claims another biometric data lawsuit in Illinois, but the Rosenbach v. Six Flags case lives on in the Illinois Supreme Court.; A clever AI hid data from its creators to cheat at its appointed task.; The president signed the SECURE Tech Act, setting vulnerability disclosure policy and calling for bug bounties at DHS.; A really fascinating and deeply ambivalating report on Amazon Marketplace. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||1/7/2019||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 244: Blockchain Takes Over The Podcast||In our 244th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Alan Cohn takes over the podcast to talk about blockchain. Alan is joined by Gary Goldsholle, Will Turner, Evan Abrams, and Josh Oppenheimer to discuss: Projections for mergers and acquisitions activities in a crypto bear market.; The recent joint statement on technology and anti-money laundering compliance.; Sanctions by the Office of Foreign Assets Control.; Projections for BitLicense in New York.; International developments in cryptocurrency regulation.; Paying taxes with cryptocurrency.; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||12/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 243: Tech World Turned Upside Down Down Under||In our 243rd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Rep. Jim Langevin of Rhode Island. Stewart is joined for the News Roundup by special guest Denise Howell (@dhowell) of This Week in Law, Nate Jones (@n8jones81), Gus Hurwitz (@gushurwitz), and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Australia’s Parliament passed its controversial encryption bill.; The Marriott hack may have been a Chinese intelligence operation.; The Khashoggi killing backfires on… Israeli and Italian state hacking companies? Plus, a Saudi dissident is waging lawfare in… Tel Aviv?; Are we ready for an electromagnetic pulse attack?; The detainment of Huawei’s CFO could be detrimental to ongoing trade talks. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||12/9/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 242: Nobody Trolls Like the Russians||In our 242nd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Michael Tiffany, co-founder and president of White Ops. They discuss the joint White Ops – Google white paper, “The Hunt for 3ve: Taking down a major ad fraud operation through industry collaboration.” Stewart and Michael are joined for the News Roundup by Maury Shenk, Dr. Megan Reiss (@MegReiss), and David Kris (@DavidKris) to discuss: Supreme Court mulls new damages doctrine for coopetitive markets.; Chinese students to be scrutinized for espionage risk before visas are issued.; Russian Federal Agency of News LLC – home of the trolling accountant – files trolling lawsuit against Facebook for allegedly “censoring” it as fake news.; Russia has opened a civil case against Google for failing to comply with legal requirements to censor search results – and soon may assess fines.; New Russian privacy legislation aimed at Bellingcat confirms Baker’s view that privacy law mostly just protects the powerful.; The Department of Justice has charged two Iranians with installing ransomware in the US, and Treasury has sanctioned the hackers’ Bitcoin addresses.; Police arrested a man who was passed out while his Tesla drove in autopilot mode.; Social media faces a perplexing problem in France’s Yellow Vest protests. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||12/2/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 240: If Paris Calls, Should We Hang Up?||In our 240th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Mieke Eoyang, Vice President for the National Security Program at Third Way and co-author of the new report, “To Catch a Hacker: Toward a Comprehensive Strategy to Identify, Pursue, and Punish Malicious Cyber Actors.” Stewart and Mieke are joined for the News Roundup by Maury Shenk, Dr. Megan Reiss (@megreiss), and Matthew Heiman to discuss: Russia is helping to shape sovereign immunity and hacking law in the DNC hacking lawsuit.; That’s one way to get Julian Assange out of the “intolerable” conditions of the Ecuadorian embassy in Britain.; Judge rules Amazon must make available Echo recordings in a double murder case.; 50+ states and corporations have signed onto an agreement on a cyber pact – China, Russia, Iran, Israel, and the US are not among them. Also, the US and Russia are jockeying to influence the international conversation on cyber norms.; Soft power: Chinese-style social credit is coming to a Venezuela near you.; Sweet justice: California SWATter has pleaded guilty and now faces 20+ years in prison.; The National Protection and Programs Directorate of DHS is finally renamed the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||11/18/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 239: The Ministry of Silly Talk||In our 239th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker moderates an ABA panel on CFIUS law and policy. Stewart is joined for the News Roundup by Dr. Megan Reiss (@megreiss), David Kris (@davidkris), and Nate Jones (@n8jones81) to discuss: Cyberlaw Podcast victory lap: Bold prediction of no successful election hacking looks good despite claims from the Internet Research Agency in a new meta-trolling propaganda campaign.; Challenges to FISA are on the rise as it starts playing a role in more criminal cases.; China develops and deploys gait recognition software to supplement face recognition, taking what looks like a global lead in the technology.; China is reportedly exporting its cyber surveillance activities to Africa.; Aussies accuse Chinese People’s Liberation Army of sending its scientists to the West to study cutting-edge defense technology.; Silicon Valley vs. conservatives: Facebook and broadcast media refuse to run a Trump campaign ad.; Gab is back, by the skin of its teeth.; The left comes for LinkedIn posts.; Suppressing speech is harder than Silicon Valley thought.; Iran continues to accuse Israel of perpetrating its most recent Stuxnet-like incident.; Dutch police managed to decrypt 258,000 messages in the IronChat app.; Pakistan says “almost all” its banks have been hacked – with data stolen. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||11/11/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 238: Bold Prediction Episode: Foreign Governments Will Not Hack This Election||In our 238th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker moderates a panel during Homeland Security Week. Stewart is joined for the News Roundup by Matthew Heiman, David Kris (@davidkris), and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: China hijacked the Border Gateway Protocol; The Supreme Court is skeptical of Google’s cy pres settlement that treated 129 million class members like bystanders; Failures in CIA communications severely affected human intelligence operations; The anti-Semitic ramblings of the Pittsburgh terrorist have renewed interest in updating Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act; A Florida Appeals Court quashed the “foregone conclusion” doctrine for compelled passcode disclosure; New Department of Justice indictments of Chinese intelligence officers, persons, and businesses; Will the 2018 elections be disrupted by information operations? The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||11/4/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 237: I'd Like to Teach the World to Troll, in Perfect Harmony!||In our 237th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Dr. Dipayan Ghosh (@ghoshd7) of Harvard’s Shorenstein Center and co-author of “Digital Deceit II: A Policy Agenda to Fight Disinformation on the Internet.” Stewart is also joined by Nate Jones (@n8jones81) and David Kris (@davidkris) to discuss: Another indictment of a Russian – complete with a trolling video; China Telecom hijacked the Border Gateway Protocol (BGP); President Trump’s phones have been tapped?; Tim Cook, privacy, and the EU; FireEye has uncovered the provenance of TRITON; Yahoo has reached a settlement in its breach class action – to the tune of ~25 cents per account; Facebook got hit with a fine by the UK Information Commissioner’s Office for the Cambridge Analytica debacle; The Brits and Brussels are getting along – can they clear up the Belgacom/Proximus misunderstanding?; What goes around comes around for the Uber “bounty” hackers. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||10/28/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 236: Twitterlaw and the Khashoggi Killing||In our 236th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Christopher Krebs (@nppd_krebs), Under Secretary for the National Protection and Programs Directorate – and soon to be Director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency – at the Department of Homeland Security. Stewart is also joined by Maury Shenk and Jamil Jaffer (@jamil_n_jaffer) to discuss: The Khashoggi killing compromises Saudi Twitter manipulation effort; The Intercept sends another source to jail, despite considerable effort spent on tradecraft; The effects of the EU’s attack on Google Android; The Securities and Exchange Commission flags email fraud costing nine firms $100 million and hints at enforcement in the future; China’s tech startup boom is attracting US venture capital (VC) money just as the flood of Chinese VC money into the US starts looking iffy; The ABA finds ethical mandate for breach disclosure to clients, and more; Do names on doorbells violate GDPR? Vienna: yes; Berlin: no; Equifax insider trading by data breach engineer leads to eight months of home confinement – and a $50,000 fine. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||10/21/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 235: It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's...Doug?||In our 235th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Doug, the chief legal officer of the UK’s Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ). Stewart is also joined by Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) and Matthew Heiman to discuss: The Supermicro story that refuses to die; The Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) is running a pilot program for Chinese acquisitions in 27 critical industries; The Department of Justice has an answer to those who say indictments of government officials are a sign of weakness; Google’s recent military contract announcement; Google’s massive EU fine; The Department of Defense’s weapons cybersecurity measures are questioned by the Government Accountability Office; The White House has concerns over the defense industrial base; Vietnam will force local data storage to Silicon Valley’s dismay. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||10/14/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 234: The California Turing Test||In our 234th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Gus Hurwitz (@GusHurwitz) and Dr. Megan Reiss (@MegReiss) to discuss: Is the Supermicro story true? Can either side be believed?; The FAA bill gives the government authority to down drones; US judge slams ZTE for violating probation; US restarting talks on cyber norms with a more select audience; State net neutrality law faces lawsuit – is there a possibility California won’t lose?; Will the charges never end? US indicts GRU (Russian intelligence) for hacking the doping authorities; Speaking of GRU, Bellingcat has outed the other nerve agent operative; California says bots have to disclose their botitude; Wiretap assistance order reportedly rejected by court in US suit against Facebook; North Korea is getting rich by robbing (mostly non-US) banks; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||10/8/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 233: Outing the GRU||In our 233rd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker is joined by Evan Abrams and Nicholas Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: Uber to pay $148 million in 2016 data breach settlement; Bellingcat discovers the identity of Col. Chepiga in the Russian nerve agent attack; Silicon Valley and the Trump Administration are embracing privacy law; A former NSA developer is sentenced for bringing home highly classified tools and documents; The New York attorney general has issued a report on virtual markets and cryptocurrency; West Virginia wants to use blockchain for mobile voting; The GRU is taking the “P” in APT way too seriously; And more! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||9/30/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 232: "I'm afraid you can't say that, Dave." Will Al Save the Internet from Vladimir Putin - and Matt Drudge?||In our 232nd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Peter W. Singer, strategist at New America, national security expert, and award-winning author. Stewart and Peter discuss his new book, co-authored with Emerson T. Brooking, LikeWar: The Weaponization of Social Media. They are joined by Maury Shenk, Dr. Megan Reiss (@MegReiss), and Nicholas Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: The White House and DOD cyber strategies have been released; Punching above their weight in cyberspace – Dutch intel catches Russian spies planning cyberattacks on Swiss institute investigating nerve agent attack in Britain; The downside of sanctions – China joins Russia in protesting sanctions on Russian companies over election; Is it reckless to speculate about the Massachusetts gas explosion being a possible cyberattack?; Amazon may be probed by the EU over their data practices?; Robert Zarate, a Steptoe alum, makes the honor roll of people who’ve pissed off the GRU; The Mirai botnet kids have been sentenced to help theFBI in its cyber investigations; Marco Rubio asks Apple about an app sending American user data to China. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||9/23/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 231: Ah, September, when Europe Unleashes a Summer's Worth of Crazy||In our 231st episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews former Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff. Stewart and Secretary Chertoff discuss his new book Exploding Data: Reclaiming Our Cyber Security in the Digital Age. They are joined by Paul Rosenzweig (@RosenzweigP), Matthew Heiman, and Gus Hurwitz (@gushurwitz) to discuss: National Academy assesses what is needed to secure the vote; Those wacky Europeans are at it again: UK Government Communications Headquarters caught up in Snowden’s web; Europe could fine tech companies that don’t remove terrorist content in one hour; Sweeping copyright bill passed by the European Parliament; European Commission fights France in ECJ over right to be forgotten extraterritorial scope; Looking for social media bias: New frontiers in hate speech; Baker offers up his Facebook account in the name of science; And who knew the Weekly Standard was doing social media fact checks? Phony scandal of the week: IBM developed tech to search footage by skin color; California has passed a new IoT security bill, which awaits the governor’s signature.The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||9/16/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 230: Click Here to Kill Everybody||In our 230th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews internationally renowned technologist and security and privacy guru Bruce Schneier. Stewart and Bruce discuss his new book Click Here to Kill Everybody: Security and Survival in a Hyper-Connected World. Stewart is also joined by Jamil Jaffer (@jamil_n_jaffer), David Kris (@DavidKris), and Nate Jones (@n8jones81) to discuss: NotPetya and Maersk; The North Korea indictment – and the payback; Intrusion Truth has worked to expose government APTs – and Crowdstrike has verified some of its disclosures; The Five Country Ministerial has issued a statement on encryption that seems to threaten action; The US has extradited a Russian hacker from Georgia. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||9/9/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 229: Blockchain Takes Over The Cyberlaw Podcast||In our 229th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Alan Cohn, Maury Shenk, Charles Mills, Claire Blakey, and Evan Abrams take over the podcast.Charles Mills provides an overview of the recent New York federal court decision and Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) victory against Cabbage Tech, Corp. d/b/a Coin Drop Markets and Patrick K. McDonnell of Staten Island, New York, ordering McDonnell to pay over $1.1 million in civil monetary penalties and restitution in connection with a lawsuit brought by the CFTC alleging fraud in connection with virtual currencies, including Bitcoin and Litecoin. In addition, Charles presents a more general overview of CFTC regulations.; Claire Blakey discusses the US Securities and Exchange Commission’s (SEC) August 23, 2018 announcement to reconsider a recent decision to reject nine Bitcoin-based exchange traded funds. Earlier this month, SEC staff delayed a decision on the SolidX proposal, stating it needs more time to consider the proposal – the deadline for this decision is Sept. 30.; Evan Abrams highlights the four takeaways from the Department of Treasury’s Financial Enforcement Network (FinCEN) director’s speech on cryptocurrency. On August 9, 2018, FinCEN Director Kenneth Blanco delivered a speech on the agency’s approach to cryptocurrency. In addition, Evan discusses the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency’s proposed charter for online lenders and other FinTech companies in the coming months.; Maury Shenk covers the recent reports about the EU finance ministers’ plan to discuss the possibility of cryptocurrency regulation at a meeting in early September. In addition, Maury discusses the European Blockchain Partnership.;Sarah Compani, Legal Counsel at Bitfinex, discusses the best security practices for users of exchanges, focusing on security settings that users can customize, such as 2FA. More generally, Sarah provides insight into the industry and the potential role of exchanges in the future. Download the 229th Episode (mp3). As always, The Cyberlaw Podcast is open to feedback. Send your questions, comments, and suggestions for topics or interviewees to CyberlawPodcast@steptoe.com. Remember: If your suggested interviewee appears on the show, we will send you a highly coveted Cyberlaw Podcast mug! The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm||9/3/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBonus: Interview with Bruce Schneier (2015)||In this bonus episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker revisits his May 2015 interview with Bruce Schneier. Stewart and Bruce discuss hacking back, government surveillance, and Edward Snowden, among other things. The Cyberlaw Podcast will return from hiatus with another edition of Blockchain Takes Over the Cyberlaw Podcast on September 4. Stewart will return the following week with a new interview with Bruce Schneier. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||8/19/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanBonus: Interview with Joseph Nye (2015)||In this bonus episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker revisits his April 2015 interview with Joseph Nye (@Joe_Nye). Stewart and Professor Nye discuss cyberwar strategy, the problem of attribution, and the rise of China, among other things. The Cyberlaw Podcast will return from hiatus with another edition of Blockchain Takes Over the Cyberlaw Podcast on September 4. Stewart will return the following week with an interview with Bruce Schneier. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||8/5/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 228: Best Idea Yet for Derailing the Kavanaugh Nomination||In our 228th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews FTC Commissioner Noah Phillips (@FTCPhillips). Stewart and Commissioner Phillips are joined by Matthew Heiman, Gus Hurwitz (@GusHurwitz), and Dr. Megan Reiss (@MegReiss) to discuss: The National Defense Authorization Act is nailed down early; CFIUS reform is along for the ride; plus Cyber Solarium; but wait, there is more; circuits split on insurance coverage of phishing losses; ACLU’s phony test of Amazon’s face recognition service matches 28 members of Congress against 25,000 mugshots at an 80% confidence level; China screws Qualcomm despite the US deal with ZTE: NXP acquisition dies of felony neglect by authorities; matching China stride for stride, the New York Public Service Commission has revoked the 2016 conditional approval of the Charter-Time Warner merger; GDPR sucks (money out of the economy)! Both Facebook and Twitter lost about 20% of their value this week; India takes on WhatsApp over end-to-end encryption. Also, Commissioner Phillips tells us that the FTC will be holding a series of hearings this winter regarding Competition and Consumer Protection in the 21st Century. You can learn more about the hearings on the FTC website. You can file public comments on upcoming topics through August 20, 2018, as well. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||7/29/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 227: Defending Against Deep Fakes with Lifelogs, Watermarks … and Tatts?||In our 227th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Bobby Chesney (@BobbyChesney), who recently co-authored a paper with Danielle Citron (@DanielleCitron) titled, “Deep Fakes: A Looming Challenge for Privacy, Democracy, and National Security.” Stewart and Bobby are joined by Maury Shenk, Nick Weaver (@ncweaver), and Patt Cannaday to discuss: Is the EU’s $5 billion fine on Google a bad idea grounded in anti-Americanism? President Trump seems to think so; the DOJ cyber digital report (PDF) sets sensible new standards for avoiding partisanship while naming foreign states trying to influence US opinion – but if DOJ gives Big Tech special access to intelligence, will Big Tech use the intel in a nonpartisan way? Recent speculative execution attacks on Intel and ARM processors (Spectre et al.). Overdoing it wrong? Senate doesn’t just cave on ZTE penalties for violating export control law – it also caves on US supply chain worries; the FISA document dump on Carter Page – sure, it undercuts Devin Nunes, but what are the ramifications for FISA applications that rely heavily on news media articles? All 50 states have taken federal funds (PDF) to improve election cybersecurity – now it’s up to them to deliver a secure election in November; EU and Japan agree on mutual adequacy findings allowing personal data transfers – but will the findings meet the European Court of Justice’s absurdly solipsistic requirements? You can also find Bobby Chesney on the National Security Law Podcast (@NSLpodcast), which he co-hosts with Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck). If you want to learn more about deep fakes, check out the Heritage Foundation’s recent discussion in which Bobby participated. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||7/22/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 226: Where Are All My Twitter Followers?||--||7/15/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 225: Interview with General Michael Hayden||In our 225th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews General Michael Hayden (@GenMhayden) regarding his new book The Assault on Intelligence: American National Security in an Age of Lies. Stewart and General Hayden are joined by Paul Rosenzweig(@RosenzweigP), David Kris (@DavidKris), Nate Jones (@n8jones81), and Nick Weaver (@ncweaver) to discuss: ZTE takes compliance steps, gets preliminary life support order from Commerce Department; and China Mobile’s application to provide telecom service to Americans is also going to bite the dust – after only seven years of dithering; remarkably, European Parliament has second thoughts about self-destructive copyright maximalism – maybe Wikipedia Italy’s blocking campaign had some effect? Is Europe leaving the US in the dust when it comes to rifling through immigrants' digital data? And: Israel claims that social media monitoring has cut down on lone-wolf attacks – the Palestinians aren’t happy; DNC tries to improve security, gets 80% of its staff not to click on bad links – what’s sad is that this really is pretty good by the standards of most institutions; Feds have developed a strategy to bust Dark Web money launderers; NSA’s mass data destruction. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||7/8/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 224 with Duncan Hollis: Do We Need an International “Potluck” Cyber Coalition?||In our 224th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Duncan Hollis regarding his and Matthew Waxman’s paper, “Promoting International Cybersecurity Cooperation: Lessons from the Proliferation Security Initiative (PSI).” Stewart and Duncan are joined by Maury Shenk, Christopher Conte, Jamil Jaffer (@jamil_n_jaffer), and Laura Hillsman to discuss: California’s new privacy law; SEC charges a second Equifax manager with insider training; White House draws a line in the sand over ZTE in statement of administration policy – but not veto threat, and the president decides only to beat up Chinese investments once; serious problems in the USA Freedom Act record system; facing reality, Reality pleads; kind of a sad showing for Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act’s information-sharing provisions; The Intercept continues to pioneer relevance-free journalism; trust in social media is collapsing, especially among Republicans, who (remarkably) also think tech companies need more regulation. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||7/1/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanEpisode 223 with David Sanger: A War Reporter for the Cyber Age||In our 223rd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews David Sanger (@SangerNYT) regarding his new book, The Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage, and Fear in the Cyber Age. Stewart and David are joined by Pat Derdenger, Michael Vatis, Matthew Heiman, and Jim Lewis to discuss: Carpenter: What the future holds. Private sector Carpenter-ish steps. Wayfair: What the future holds. North Korea is hacking banks in Latin America. Cyber attacks during Trump-Kim summit. Joshua Schulte leaks his startlingly pedestrian jail diaries. Chinese hackers getting stealthier? Project Solarium proposal in NDAA. Are the Chinese releasing OPM hack data? More karma for Southern Poverty Law Center? Algeria shuts down Internet completely to stop student cheating. Administration struggling with privacy principles to compete with GDPR. The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||6/25/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanInterview with Megan Stifel||In our 222nd episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Megan Stifel (@MeganStifel) regarding her white paper for Public Knowledge. Stewart and Megan are joined by Brian Egan and Gus Hurwitz (@gushurwitz) to discuss: ZTE, staggered but not dead, spurs White House-Congress fight over National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) language, which might not actually do what was intended (see also Commerce’s denial order for ZTE). The AT&T-Time Warner merge. A Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS) reform bill is on the NDAA and bound for passage: what it does. The long withdrawing roar: Kaspersky, condemned by the European Union (EU), pulls out of EU projects. Chinese hackers are back to stealing competitive secrets. EU content filtering payoff to Big Copyright tells us where the regulated Internet is going – just ask Spanish soccer fans about surveillance. US sanctions cybersecurity companies with Silicon Valley footprints for helping the Russian FSB do its hacking. New privacy paper pantses privacy ideology. Apple’s new USB restricted mode … looks like it’s defeated already? Reader mail: Sigh. (Stewart’s losing the war against sigh près.) The views expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and do not reflect the opinions of the firm.||6/17/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNews Roundup||In our 221st episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker, Nicholas Weaver (@ncweaver), David Kris (@DavidKris), and Nate Jones (@n8jones81) discuss: LabMD decision from the 11th Circuit overturns decades of FTC acquisition of legal authority through bureaucratic adverse possession; Commerce says it has a deal with ZTE. Is bipartisan opposition from Congress too late? This Week in Leaks: More ill-advised romance in the intelligence community; James Wolfe pays the price; Paul Manafort has similar problems with secure messaging; The Hansen bust: What does it say about Chinese espionage and the OPM hack? And the Mallory conviction for good measure; Speaking of China, they recently scored a cyberespionage coup.||6/10/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanNews Roundup||In our 220th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker, Maury Shenk, Gus Hurwitz (@GusHurwitz), and Megan Reiss (@MegReiss) discuss: GDPR disruptions: Some US sites just exclude Europeans; GDPR yields new Schrems lawsuits against Big Tech; But it may also boost the giants’ cloud business and close the door on adtech rivals; Wilbur Ross, having caved on GDPR, whines about it and asks for exactly the wrong kind of relief; ICANN sues Tucows for dropping PII collection – and loses, tout suite; And the ePrivacy Regulation is on deck. Kaspersky loses both its lawsuits in one blow. This week in government cybersecurity reports offering ineffectual responses to attacks the Iranians have already shown they will use: Iranians ready retaliation attack on US industrial controls; DOE/DHS offer soothing words about grid resilience in the face of cyberattack, but little real support for the emollient; Commerce and DHS release botnet response report – full of visions of the future without the guts to say how we will get there.||6/3/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
||CleanInterview with Nick Bilton||In our 219th episode of The Cyberlaw Podcast, Stewart Baker interviews Nick Bilton (@nickbilton), special correspondent for Vanity Fair and New York Times-bestselling author. Stewart and Nick discuss the thrilling true story of Ross Ulbricht and the Silk Road takedown in Nick’s book American Kingpin: The Epic Hunt for the Criminal Mastermind Behind the Silk Road. You can grab a paperback reprint copy of the book starting today.||5/28/2018||Free||View in iTunes|
Don't be fooled by the fact-based discussions in this podcast. Do not find yourself intrigued by listening to actual high-ranking government employees discussing cybersecurity. These people are all over 30, and are not to be trusted.
Really offensive comparison
Because California is taking a states-as-laboratories approach to net neutrality, the host made a comment along the lines of, “If South Carolina wants to take down their statues of John Calhoun, looks like California might want to put them up.” I get that the host did not mean that CA is as bad as the Confederacy, but this comparison went too far and was horribly offensive.
I am really interested in cybersecurity law, but this was so out of line that I may stop listening.
Very good, could be better
The content is good. Would love to have you provide some quick form of explanation for all the wonky acronyms. Also, the sound quality is inconsistent. Some of the participants sound like they’re on a bad speakerphone and are standing far from the mic.